1 00:00:10,301 --> 00:00:12,741 In the matter of the People of the State of California 2 00:00:12,804 --> 00:00:14,389 v. Orenthal James Simpson, 3 00:00:14,472 --> 00:00:17,559 case number BA097211, 4 00:00:17,642 --> 00:00:19,686 we, the jury, in the above entitled action, 5 00:00:19,769 --> 00:00:22,689 find the defendant, Orenthal James Simpson, 6 00:00:22,772 --> 00:00:27,819 not guilty of the crime of murder in violation of penal code section 187A, 7 00:00:27,902 --> 00:00:30,822 a felony upon Nicole Brown Simpson, a human being, 8 00:00:30,905 --> 00:00:33,074 as charged in count one of the information. 9 00:00:47,547 --> 00:00:49,591 So what are you saying? That we're fucked now? 10 00:00:49,674 --> 00:00:52,552 Because I gotta level with you, I just don't see it that way. 11 00:00:52,635 --> 00:00:56,306 OJ is, like, the biggest fucking killer of all time, right? 12 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:57,849 And he got away with it. 13 00:00:59,434 --> 00:01:00,977 And the best part, Leslie, 14 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:03,772 is that the guy didn't even have to take the fucking stand... 15 00:01:03,855 --> 00:01:05,899 Lyle, they are out for blood. 16 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:10,445 Garcetti cares about one thing, one thing only, and that is his re-election. 17 00:01:10,528 --> 00:01:12,489 That is why they're trying to gut our case 18 00:01:12,572 --> 00:01:14,866 because they need a win and they need it now. 19 00:01:14,949 --> 00:01:16,826 Fine, I understand that. 20 00:01:17,327 --> 00:01:19,120 Then you need to file a motion. 21 00:01:19,204 --> 00:01:20,038 Wow. 22 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:22,499 This is even more of a reason that we're not gonna bring on 23 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:24,542 some shitty fucking public defender, Leslie. 24 00:01:24,626 --> 00:01:26,795 Charles Gessler is the best in LA. 25 00:01:26,878 --> 00:01:27,879 Oh, is he? 26 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:31,466 Lyle, it's nice to finally meet. 27 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:39,014 Come on in. 28 00:01:42,477 --> 00:01:43,603 It's not happening. 29 00:01:43,686 --> 00:01:45,146 It's just a no. 30 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:47,899 So I don't know what we need to do to get this figured out. 31 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:51,319 My preference would be to have Jill back or call Cochran. 32 00:01:51,402 --> 00:01:55,031 I can't just call Cochran, and you don't have any money. 33 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:58,451 Leslie, do you know how much money I was able to raise 34 00:01:58,535 --> 00:01:59,577 just this past week? 35 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:02,372 Well, you know, I'm glad you bring that up because... 36 00:02:03,414 --> 00:02:06,126 That's a great letterhead, by the way. 37 00:02:07,043 --> 00:02:09,254 "In helping me, you're also voicing your support 38 00:02:09,337 --> 00:02:11,089 for so many other abused people." 39 00:02:11,172 --> 00:02:12,632 "We're all survivors together." 40 00:02:12,715 --> 00:02:16,719 "If you can help by pledging an amount on the 15th of each month, 41 00:02:16,803 --> 00:02:22,475 a monthly pledge card to the Lyle Menendez Defense Fund?!" 42 00:02:24,477 --> 00:02:30,108 How many times have I told you to stop writing letters? 43 00:02:30,191 --> 00:02:34,779 Because they will be used against you, and it is a terrible look! 44 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:37,907 Says the woman making $4,000 a day on Dateline blabbing about OJ, 45 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:39,909 and attacking the same people who are trying... 46 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:41,411 - It's called a job, okay? - Okay. 47 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:44,330 While we're talking about money, may I just mention 48 00:02:44,414 --> 00:02:48,001 that I am still here fighting for your life pro bono. 49 00:02:48,084 --> 00:02:50,879 Did you order a new wig and have it sent to the jail, 50 00:02:50,962 --> 00:02:54,174 and it cost $2,500? 51 00:02:54,257 --> 00:02:56,467 This is from the same guy who did OJ's hair treatment. 52 00:02:56,551 --> 00:02:57,719 - So yes, I did. - Lyle! 53 00:02:57,802 --> 00:03:01,055 I think we can all take a page out of the fucking guy's book, okay? 54 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:04,058 Because the guy clearly had something fucking figured out! 55 00:03:04,142 --> 00:03:07,228 You know what he had figured out? He had a fucking catchphrase! 56 00:03:07,312 --> 00:03:10,148 And I think that we would all benefit from a catchphrase. 57 00:03:10,231 --> 00:03:11,941 And I think our catchphrase can be, 58 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:15,028 "If you've been abused, you cannot be accused." 59 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:25,246 - What? What the fuck is so funny, Erik? - You are unbelievable. 60 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:29,626 Okay, well, I'm sorry. That's my bad. It's just my life is on the line. 61 00:03:29,709 --> 00:03:31,794 Yeah. Well, you sound like an idiot. 62 00:03:32,712 --> 00:03:35,965 Erik, do I need to remind you why we're here in the first place? 63 00:03:38,676 --> 00:03:39,802 Because of you. 64 00:03:42,847 --> 00:03:44,474 You're the fucking idiot. 65 00:03:46,142 --> 00:03:49,771 And all you had to do was keep your stupid, little mouth shut. 66 00:03:58,863 --> 00:04:00,323 - Really? - Mm-hmm. 67 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:07,121 "Lyle Menendez, in his own words." 68 00:04:07,205 --> 00:04:08,998 - Fuck that crazy bitch. - No. 69 00:04:09,540 --> 00:04:11,751 No. You don't get to do that anymore. 70 00:04:11,834 --> 00:04:13,169 Because you fucked us. 71 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:16,673 We are fucked. They have hours of you on tape! 72 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:21,219 - I did not know she was recording me! - And you sound insane! 73 00:04:21,302 --> 00:04:25,556 You sound insane. Do you realize how fucking stupid that was? 74 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:29,018 Then you go and write all those crazy fucking letters 75 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:31,229 asking everyone to lie for us? 76 00:04:31,312 --> 00:04:32,689 Who are you?! 77 00:04:33,815 --> 00:04:36,985 All I ever wanted growing up was to be like you. 78 00:04:38,027 --> 00:04:40,321 But do you know what people say about you now? 79 00:04:40,405 --> 00:04:42,532 They say that you look dead in the eyes. 80 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:44,742 They say your eyes are black. 81 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:47,370 They call you a psychopath. 82 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:51,833 We were so close. Lyle, we were almost free. 83 00:04:51,916 --> 00:04:53,167 Yeah, because of me. 84 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:57,880 It was because of you that we almost got out of here. 85 00:04:59,090 --> 00:05:00,258 But we didn't. 86 00:05:00,341 --> 00:05:03,428 And now we're fucked, and it's all your fault! 87 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:06,097 All we had to do was hang one more jury. 88 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:09,350 We had to convince one more person and we'd be out of here. 89 00:05:09,434 --> 00:05:13,479 But that's never going to happen now because no one believes us. 90 00:05:13,563 --> 00:05:16,190 Lyle, everyone hates us. Everyone wants us dead! 91 00:05:16,941 --> 00:05:19,610 And I'm really scared because I don't want to die. 92 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:22,739 And I don't want you to die. And I hate what we did. 93 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:26,617 I wish it never happened. I wish I could take it back, but I can't. 94 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:28,619 And now I'm stuck here in this hellhole. 95 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:33,082 I'm thinking about it every day while you run around like a fucking crazy person! 96 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:37,045 The only thing I can do is try and save us! Because it's all up to me now! 97 00:05:37,128 --> 00:05:40,048 And I don't know if I can get back up there and do it again. I don't know. 98 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:42,526 You better figure it the fuck out 'cause I'm not dying in here 99 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:44,470 just 'cause you're a pathetic, weak little bitch. 100 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:46,179 Erik! Hey! Enough! 101 00:05:46,262 --> 00:05:48,264 Fuck! You fucked it up! 102 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:51,476 - I should've fucking killed you too! - There he is. 103 00:05:52,143 --> 00:05:55,646 - There's my brother. The killer. - You f... 104 00:05:56,647 --> 00:05:58,858 Take this into the courtroom, please, 105 00:05:58,941 --> 00:06:01,861 because I'm ready to get the fuck out of here. 106 00:06:01,944 --> 00:06:05,406 You f... 107 00:06:08,618 --> 00:06:10,161 Nice to see this again. 108 00:06:10,244 --> 00:06:11,913 - Take him out. - Do your job. 109 00:06:11,996 --> 00:06:12,997 You... 110 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:15,290 You... 111 00:06:15,833 --> 00:06:18,711 So that is their strategy, to put the parents on trial 112 00:06:18,795 --> 00:06:23,925 because the defense fails logically, psychologically, and legally. 113 00:06:24,008 --> 00:06:27,178 It's a phony story that never took place. 114 00:06:27,261 --> 00:06:28,846 - Objection. - Overruled. 115 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:31,891 You won't be hearing from Lyle Menendez during this trial 116 00:06:32,517 --> 00:06:36,020 because he wrote a book that is more or less a glossary of all his lies. 117 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:37,104 Objection. 118 00:06:37,146 --> 00:06:38,272 Overruled. 119 00:06:38,356 --> 00:06:43,069 So it will all come down to the testimony of Erik Menendez, the killer, 120 00:06:43,152 --> 00:06:45,363 and whether you're going to believe him. 121 00:06:45,446 --> 00:06:46,280 Objection. 122 00:06:46,364 --> 00:06:48,241 Ms. Abramson, we're not doing this. 123 00:06:48,324 --> 00:06:50,910 - Ugh. - Overruled. Let him speak. 124 00:06:51,702 --> 00:06:52,702 Thank you. 125 00:06:55,373 --> 00:07:00,753 Ladies and gentlemen, judge people by what they do. 126 00:07:01,754 --> 00:07:05,091 Erik Menendez can say anything in the world, 127 00:07:05,174 --> 00:07:09,637 but remember what Lyle and Erik Menendez did. 128 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:14,308 You sold Jose Menendez the Alfa Romeo 129 00:07:14,392 --> 00:07:17,311 that he purchased for his son Lyle, correct? 130 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:18,438 That's correct. 131 00:07:18,521 --> 00:07:20,815 Happy graduation, my son. 132 00:07:21,983 --> 00:07:23,776 - Really? - Yes. 133 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:31,075 Dad, this car is a piece of shit. 134 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:36,664 And what was the sticker price for this, quote, "piece of shit"? 135 00:07:37,248 --> 00:07:39,500 - $32,000. - Objection. 136 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:40,835 What are you objecting to? 137 00:07:40,918 --> 00:07:42,670 That the price matters. 138 00:07:42,753 --> 00:07:43,629 Sit down, please. 139 00:07:43,713 --> 00:07:45,965 - Your Honor, may I approach? - No, you may not. 140 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:53,764 Lyle was really mad about the Alfa. 141 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:56,851 I was like, "It's a really nice car." 142 00:07:56,934 --> 00:07:59,645 I can lean over and touch the fucking passenger seat. 143 00:07:59,729 --> 00:08:01,481 This feels like a fucking clown car. 144 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:03,983 - I feel like a fucking clown! - Okay, okay, okay. 145 00:08:04,066 --> 00:08:05,985 I'm sorry. We'll get you a different one. 146 00:08:06,068 --> 00:08:08,821 We thought, your mother and I, that this was the car for you. 147 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:11,449 Well, you thought wrong! For fuck's sake. 148 00:08:12,617 --> 00:08:15,161 Let's wrap this up. Sign the fucking papers. 149 00:08:15,703 --> 00:08:18,080 Thank you for buying me a piece of shit. 150 00:08:25,087 --> 00:08:28,216 Craig, you're one of the co-authors of Friends, aren't you? 151 00:08:28,299 --> 00:08:31,594 Not the hit TV show on NBC, by the way. 152 00:08:31,677 --> 00:08:35,097 This is an unproduced screenplay you and Erik wrote. 153 00:08:35,932 --> 00:08:36,766 Correct. 154 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:39,143 And to the best of your knowledge, is the NBC show 155 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:41,687 starring Jennifer Aniston and others 156 00:08:41,771 --> 00:08:46,484 about people who viciously murder their parents in cold blood? 157 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:47,567 Objection. 158 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:48,694 He can answer. 159 00:08:49,278 --> 00:08:51,614 Uh... No, it's not. 160 00:08:51,697 --> 00:08:55,284 No. Because the screenplay Friends that you and Erik wrote 161 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:59,830 is about a character named Hamilton Cromwell 162 00:09:00,706 --> 00:09:02,250 who murders his parents. 163 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:03,626 Objection. Relevance. 164 00:09:03,709 --> 00:09:06,546 If I may. You can't object to everything he says, Counsel. 165 00:09:09,006 --> 00:09:10,006 Craig... 166 00:09:12,051 --> 00:09:14,470 Erik confessed to you. Did he not? 167 00:09:16,847 --> 00:09:17,847 He did. 168 00:09:18,724 --> 00:09:22,478 But it's not the story that they told Dr. Oziel. 169 00:09:23,938 --> 00:09:24,772 No. 170 00:09:24,855 --> 00:09:28,067 Nor is it the same story they told in this courtroom. 171 00:09:28,734 --> 00:09:29,569 No. 172 00:09:29,652 --> 00:09:31,195 What did Erik tell you? 173 00:09:36,617 --> 00:09:42,164 That they uh... they'd gone to the movies and Erik went inside to get his fake ID. 174 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,712 He didn't go in through the front door. He went in through the living room window. 175 00:09:47,795 --> 00:09:49,589 And did he say why? 176 00:09:50,214 --> 00:09:52,054 Yeah, because those doors were quieter, 177 00:09:52,091 --> 00:09:53,593 and he didn't want to wake them up. 178 00:10:00,891 --> 00:10:02,268 So they were asleep. 179 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:09,817 Yeah. That's what he told me. 180 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:11,068 Fuck. 181 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:14,655 And he also told me that when he got back to the car, 182 00:10:14,739 --> 00:10:16,157 Lyle was holding the guns. 183 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,618 You want to do it? Right now. 184 00:10:19,744 --> 00:10:20,578 Let's do it. 185 00:10:20,661 --> 00:10:21,704 Uh-huh. 186 00:10:22,204 --> 00:10:24,999 That was when they murdered their sleeping parents. 187 00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:26,666 Yes. 188 00:10:28,377 --> 00:10:29,378 Yes! 189 00:10:30,046 --> 00:10:31,046 Fuck! 190 00:10:31,756 --> 00:10:34,550 Lyle... We gotta change our fucking clothes. 191 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:37,178 Look, there's blood! How did I not fucking see that? 192 00:10:41,974 --> 00:10:44,143 And do you believe the murders were premeditated? 193 00:10:44,226 --> 00:10:47,855 - Objection. Strike that from the record. - You're shouting, Counsel. 194 00:10:47,938 --> 00:10:50,900 Well, I'm sorry I'm shouting. I'm angry, so my voice is loud. 195 00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:55,237 I don't care if you're angry. You will control yourself in my courtroom. 196 00:10:56,822 --> 00:11:01,702 Mr. Cignarelli, are you familiar with a film called The Billionaire Boys Club? 197 00:11:01,786 --> 00:11:04,622 Yeah. It's basically what Lyle and Erik did, 198 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:07,041 rich kids who killed their parents for money. 199 00:11:07,124 --> 00:11:08,042 Objection. 200 00:11:08,125 --> 00:11:10,670 The court is going to hold you in contempt. 201 00:11:10,753 --> 00:11:13,005 Well, I'm gonna hold the court in contempt pretty soon 202 00:11:13,089 --> 00:11:16,175 because I am finding your rulings astonishingly biased. 203 00:11:16,258 --> 00:11:21,430 Erik didn't just happen to see that movie on TV, though, did he? 204 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:23,015 No. No. 205 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:26,018 Yeah, he knew about the story way before it was a movie. 206 00:11:26,102 --> 00:11:28,437 I mean, we both did, because our friend Brian... 207 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:31,691 Well, it was like about his parents. 208 00:11:31,774 --> 00:11:33,776 So 14 months before he killed his parents, 209 00:11:33,859 --> 00:11:38,280 Erik heard the story of how your parents were murdered, murdered for money. 210 00:11:38,781 --> 00:11:41,701 Well... yes. Correct. 211 00:11:44,954 --> 00:11:47,373 Brian, did Lyle Menendez write you a letter from jail? 212 00:11:49,291 --> 00:11:53,879 Yeah. He... he wanted me to watch this movie called At Close Range. 213 00:11:55,297 --> 00:11:57,883 "I need you to say that you and me watched it with my dad, 214 00:11:57,967 --> 00:12:01,387 and that he said the movie was unrealistic because the father would've killed the son 215 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:03,431 as soon as the trouble started and not waited, 216 00:12:03,514 --> 00:12:05,391 and that you were shocked when he said that." 217 00:12:05,474 --> 00:12:08,519 "Then you say you always felt my dad was a powerful person 218 00:12:08,602 --> 00:12:10,146 and that you never felt welcome." 219 00:12:13,357 --> 00:12:14,734 Please state your name. 220 00:12:14,817 --> 00:12:18,279 Erik Galen Menendez, M-E-N-E-N-D-E-Z. 221 00:12:19,447 --> 00:12:20,781 - Hi, Erik. - Objection. 222 00:12:20,865 --> 00:12:22,158 I literally just said "hi." 223 00:12:22,241 --> 00:12:24,827 - Intimidation, Your Honor. - Overruled. 224 00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:30,124 Erik, is it true you contemplated using a crossbow to kill your parents, 225 00:12:30,207 --> 00:12:31,959 hunt them like animals? 226 00:12:32,042 --> 00:12:34,628 Well, we just, that was... 227 00:12:34,712 --> 00:12:36,547 We could do it with a crossbow. 228 00:12:39,925 --> 00:12:44,096 I mean, with your license suspended and all of your fucking speeding tickets... 229 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:46,891 That wouldn't be an issue because we don't have to use an ID. 230 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,062 When we were at the gun store and we thought we wouldn't be able to get a gun, 231 00:12:52,146 --> 00:12:55,858 I just noticed that there were the crossbows in the... 232 00:12:55,941 --> 00:13:00,112 And it was just a thought. It went out of my mind, like, a second later. 233 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:01,489 Reloading, though. 234 00:13:03,741 --> 00:13:05,326 Yeah, you'd have one shot. 235 00:13:05,409 --> 00:13:10,331 When you thought you couldn't get a gun or when you'd already tried to get a gun? 236 00:13:10,998 --> 00:13:12,500 I... I don't remember. 237 00:13:12,583 --> 00:13:16,587 Well, because if you saw crossbows at the place you were trying to get a gun, 238 00:13:16,670 --> 00:13:19,131 it means you weren't just thinking about getting a gun, 239 00:13:19,215 --> 00:13:20,633 you'd already tried to get one. 240 00:13:20,716 --> 00:13:23,844 - I'll have to object to that relevance. - Overruled. 241 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:29,183 Were there any other weapons you considered? 242 00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:31,268 What if we just use a knife? 243 00:13:31,352 --> 00:13:32,812 Objection. Relevance. Your Honor... 244 00:13:32,895 --> 00:13:35,022 I'm trying to establish premeditation. 245 00:13:35,105 --> 00:13:39,443 Your Honor, Lyle and Erik Menendez ideated on, conspired about, 246 00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:41,737 meticulously planned the murder of their parents. 247 00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:44,615 How, why, and when they planned it, it's more than relevant. 248 00:13:44,698 --> 00:13:47,618 It is central to the State's interest in this case. 249 00:13:47,701 --> 00:13:49,411 Correct. I'll allow it. 250 00:13:49,495 --> 00:13:51,038 - Mistrial. - Oh, mistrial. 251 00:13:51,121 --> 00:13:53,332 Leslie, Counsel, just stop. 252 00:13:53,415 --> 00:13:55,626 Your Honor, she wants to derail this line of questioning 253 00:13:55,709 --> 00:13:57,920 because it proves special circumstances, 254 00:13:58,003 --> 00:14:00,548 making her clients eligible for the death penalty. 255 00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:03,843 No. I would just like to be heard. 256 00:14:03,926 --> 00:14:05,803 - Ms. Abramson, stop it. - Your Honor... 257 00:14:07,596 --> 00:14:08,681 This is... 258 00:14:11,392 --> 00:14:14,186 Erik, when you purchased guns, 259 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:18,858 is it true you initially bought birdshot as ammunition? 260 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:25,239 I don't think so. I... I think... 261 00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:29,159 Quote... Your words. "We initially bought birdshot as ammunition." 262 00:14:30,244 --> 00:14:32,288 Okay. Yes, I remember that. 263 00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:35,082 And did you judge that not to be strong enough? 264 00:14:36,041 --> 00:14:36,959 Strong enough? 265 00:14:37,042 --> 00:14:41,922 Did you go back and purchase buckshot because buckshot is more lethal? 266 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:44,800 - Yes. - Okay. 267 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:51,265 And after you had fired approximately 12 rounds of buckshot 268 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:54,602 into the bodies and into the faces of your mother and father... 269 00:14:54,685 --> 00:14:56,228 Objection. We dispute that number. 270 00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:58,665 - I said "approximately." - He said "approximately." 271 00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:02,610 - No love. No love in this courtroom. - No, Counsel. No. No. 272 00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:06,614 If there's no love in this courtroom, it is there and there. 273 00:15:06,697 --> 00:15:08,657 If there's no love in this courtroom, 274 00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:12,202 it's the two heartless murderers who had no love for their parents. 275 00:15:12,286 --> 00:15:14,288 Because if you love your parents... 276 00:15:17,124 --> 00:15:18,292 you don't do this. 277 00:15:22,004 --> 00:15:24,715 If it's a lack of love you're feeling, Counsel, 278 00:15:25,382 --> 00:15:27,718 I think it's on that side of the table. 279 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,681 Erik... 280 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:36,477 ...after you'd emptied two shotguns into your mother and father, 281 00:15:37,186 --> 00:15:39,855 and Lyle came outside to reload, 282 00:15:41,231 --> 00:15:45,527 is it true you told Dr. Vicary that you handed him the last shotgun round? 283 00:15:46,362 --> 00:15:48,614 - I don't know. - Okay. You don't know? 284 00:15:48,697 --> 00:15:50,199 I will quote you again. 285 00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:54,912 Quote, "Lyle came out, and the ammo was rolling around in the trunk everywhere, 286 00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:57,247 so I handed the round to him." 287 00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:58,791 Did you say that? 288 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:02,544 Yes. 289 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:07,132 Erik, when you and Lyle were lying to your family, to the press, 290 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:11,470 saying you believed it was the Mafia who killed your parents, 291 00:16:11,553 --> 00:16:13,389 you said something interesting. 292 00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:18,310 You said that you believed that the Mafia had used shotguns to, quote... 293 00:16:20,688 --> 00:16:24,233 "make a mess," and quote, "send a message." 294 00:16:25,067 --> 00:16:26,318 - Okay. - Okay. 295 00:16:26,402 --> 00:16:28,070 And by make a mess, you meant? 296 00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:30,780 Uh... 297 00:16:31,532 --> 00:16:33,117 Just that, uh... 298 00:16:35,619 --> 00:16:37,496 You know, the Mafia, they... 299 00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:40,916 shoot out people's kneecaps, 300 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,210 and, uh, just all in all, 301 00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:44,795 they... 302 00:16:44,878 --> 00:16:48,382 ...they, uh, just make a mess of their victims. 303 00:16:48,924 --> 00:16:50,175 But you did that. 304 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:54,013 I mean, you and Lyle did that. 305 00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:59,685 You and Lyle shot out your mother's kneecap. 306 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:01,185 There it is. 307 00:17:01,895 --> 00:17:04,440 I mean, she was shot so many times, Erik. 308 00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,234 So many times that her skeleton, 309 00:17:07,317 --> 00:17:10,279 quote, "effectively lost all structural integrity." 310 00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:12,114 - Objection. - Overruled. 311 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:14,700 - Okay. - Okay? 312 00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:19,621 - Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you did that. - I've already testified to that. 313 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:23,917 Yeah, but what I'm saying is you planned to do it like that. Right? 314 00:17:24,543 --> 00:17:28,047 You planned to make it look like the Mafia did it. 315 00:17:28,130 --> 00:17:29,923 You bought shotguns, you bought buckshot. 316 00:17:30,507 --> 00:17:35,179 You shot her through the knee. You shot them multiple, multiple times. 317 00:17:35,262 --> 00:17:37,514 You planned to make it look like the Mafia did it. 318 00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:41,268 You didn't just come up with that in the heat of the moment. 319 00:17:42,352 --> 00:17:43,395 You planned it. 320 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:48,233 In legal terms, that's called "lying in wait." 321 00:17:50,986 --> 00:17:55,074 I understand what you're, uh, getting at here, Mr. Conn, 322 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:57,951 but, uh, we... we didn't plan anything. 323 00:17:59,161 --> 00:18:02,414 We really didn't. We were just trying to be prepared to defend ourselves 324 00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:05,084 because when I was growing up... 325 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:06,668 ...my dad always told me 326 00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:10,047 that if I ever told anybody what was going on between us, 327 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:11,256 that he would kill me. 328 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,217 And then I told Lyle. 329 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,969 And when Lyle confronted my dad about it, I believed him. 330 00:18:16,053 --> 00:18:19,264 I thought he was gonna... I thought he was gonna kill us. I didn't... 331 00:18:19,348 --> 00:18:21,809 That preparation you describe... 332 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:24,686 that's premeditation, Erik. 333 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:29,900 The way you did it proves that it was a premeditated double murder. 334 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,360 Have you ever been raped by your father, Mr. Conn? 335 00:18:32,402 --> 00:18:34,071 - Irrelevant. - Objection! 336 00:18:34,154 --> 00:18:37,491 We'll get to the lie that you were sexually abused by your parents. 337 00:18:37,574 --> 00:18:39,868 - Objection! - Overruled. 338 00:18:39,952 --> 00:18:42,579 Or we can get to it now, Your Honor. 339 00:18:42,663 --> 00:18:44,456 Should we talk pool repairman? 340 00:18:44,540 --> 00:18:47,084 There are two days in my life I'll never forget. 341 00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:48,919 The day JFK was shot, 342 00:18:49,002 --> 00:18:52,798 and the day I saw Erik and Lyle Menendez talking that way to their parents. 343 00:18:52,881 --> 00:18:55,050 Why're you acting like that? I don't understand. 344 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,469 Because you're a fucking faggot, Dad! 345 00:18:57,553 --> 00:18:58,833 - Exactly. - Lyle! 346 00:18:58,887 --> 00:19:01,098 - Don't defend him, Mom. - I told you to shut up. 347 00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:03,350 And just to reiterate, what day was this? 348 00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:04,518 Saturday. 349 00:19:04,601 --> 00:19:06,895 Saturday, the day before the murders. 350 00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:09,773 Did Lyle and Erik seem scared of their parents? 351 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:13,735 No. Their parents were scared of them. 352 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:20,492 That day on the boat, did Lyle and Erik seem scared of their parents? 353 00:19:20,576 --> 00:19:21,451 Not at all. 354 00:19:21,535 --> 00:19:25,497 They found out the boat was used in the movie Tequila Sunrise, 355 00:19:25,581 --> 00:19:27,082 and they really liked that. 356 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:30,669 Dude, I fucking love that movie. I got to third base watching that movie. 357 00:19:30,752 --> 00:19:32,880 - Yeah, it's Michelle Pfeiffer. - Yeah. 358 00:19:32,963 --> 00:19:35,257 - She's so fucking elegant. - Smoke show. 359 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:40,637 When you heard Jose and Kitty Menendez had been shot to death in their house, 360 00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:43,765 can you tell the court what your first thought was? 361 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,935 Oh yeah. It was that the boys did it. 362 00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:50,397 Thank you. 363 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:55,611 And you lived in the Menendez home five days a week, correct? 364 00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:57,404 - Monday through Friday? - Yes. 365 00:19:57,487 --> 00:19:59,656 - And you lived in the house? - Yes. 366 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,868 My bedroom was in the main house by the kitchen. 367 00:20:02,951 --> 00:20:07,206 Erik has testified it was a violent home, that they were always fighting. 368 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,292 That the parents hit them and screamed at them. Yes? 369 00:20:11,084 --> 00:20:13,837 No. I never heard any shouting. 370 00:20:13,921 --> 00:20:18,342 But what about fighting? Erik said that Jose and Kitty were always fighting. 371 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:22,304 No. I never heard fighting, no shouting. 372 00:20:23,972 --> 00:20:25,515 They were just very messy. 373 00:20:27,809 --> 00:20:31,146 You worked for Jose Menendez for many years. Um... 374 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,357 You'd have seen him interact with his boys. 375 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,150 Yes, since they were young. 376 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:39,404 And did you ever see him hit them or threaten them or shout at them? 377 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,448 Never. Not once. 378 00:20:41,531 --> 00:20:45,410 Jose was not an angry man. I never saw him angry. 379 00:20:48,372 --> 00:20:52,167 She loved those boys. She would do anything for them. 380 00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:56,046 She gave up everything for them. 381 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:02,761 And for them to accuse her of the things that they're saying that she did... 382 00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:08,517 You're going to burn in hell for that, boys. You're going to burn in hell. 383 00:21:08,558 --> 00:21:10,269 - Objection. - Overruled. 384 00:21:12,145 --> 00:21:13,145 This... 385 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:18,986 This is their only piece of evidence that abuse took place. 386 00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:20,779 This is a doctor's report 387 00:21:20,862 --> 00:21:24,992 that one time Erik Menendez got a bruise in the back of his throat. 388 00:21:25,075 --> 00:21:26,618 - Objection. - Overruled. 389 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:31,206 A bruise that their own witness admitted is commonly seen in children. 390 00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:37,754 Objection. 391 00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:38,839 Overruled. 392 00:21:38,922 --> 00:21:42,175 Do you remember... Do you remember this book, ladies and gentlemen? 393 00:21:43,593 --> 00:21:46,972 {n8}What if this is where their story came from? 394 00:21:48,265 --> 00:21:49,933 It's not a huge leap to take 395 00:21:50,017 --> 00:21:56,315 because the author of this book advised the defense in the previous trial. 396 00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:59,901 Your Honor, none of that is true. 397 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:05,657 There is not a shred of evidence that any of that ever happened. 398 00:22:05,741 --> 00:22:07,826 I demand a mistrial. 399 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:10,037 No. Sit down. 400 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:12,997 Your Honor. 401 00:22:13,457 --> 00:22:16,251 Ms. Abramson, sit down. Now. 402 00:22:17,586 --> 00:22:18,586 Counsel. 403 00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:20,964 Thank you, Your Honor. 404 00:22:24,384 --> 00:22:26,386 It's all in here, ladies and gentlemen. 405 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:30,098 Down to how you should wear a yellow sweater on the stand 406 00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:31,266 to seem innocent. 407 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:35,771 Eight instances of alleged abuse are exactly the same as in this book. 408 00:22:36,271 --> 00:22:39,358 How many hours did they spend confessing to Dr. Oziel? 409 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:43,737 They mentioned every other excuse. Why didn't they mention sexual abuse then? 410 00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:46,740 When Erik confessed to his best friend Craig 411 00:22:46,823 --> 00:22:49,659 that they were the ones who killed their parents, 412 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:51,995 why didn't he mention the reason they killed them, 413 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,956 this alleged sexual abuse that stretched back years and years? 414 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,334 Why did they never mention it? 415 00:22:58,502 --> 00:23:00,295 Because it never happened. 416 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,385 Because it didn't even occur to them to say it 417 00:23:07,094 --> 00:23:09,638 until they met that woman right over there. 418 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:11,390 - Objection. - Overruled. 419 00:23:11,473 --> 00:23:15,811 That woman whose last high-profile murderer client got off. 420 00:23:15,894 --> 00:23:18,188 How? The abuse excuse. 421 00:23:18,814 --> 00:23:21,400 She basically pioneered it, ladies and gentlemen. 422 00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:24,653 So why not try to give it a shot here? Here's how it works. 423 00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:26,822 You take a few facts, okay? 424 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:31,410 Jose Menendez hit Lyle in the arm once. There's this popsicle injury. 425 00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:35,831 And you weave that into a story so horrific 426 00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:37,666 it's almost impossible to believe. 427 00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:40,335 Don't feel badly if you don't believe it. 428 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:44,047 Ladies and gentlemen, it is literally impossible to believe. 429 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:46,466 And isn't it convenient 430 00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:50,470 that the only two people who could corroborate Leslie Abramson's story 431 00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:51,805 are dead in the ground? 432 00:23:53,223 --> 00:23:55,058 Oh, and they're paying her. 433 00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:57,894 Isn't that incredible? 434 00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:03,316 Dead Jose and dead Kitty Menendez have paid Leslie Abramson 435 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,651 close to a million dollars. 436 00:24:04,734 --> 00:24:06,153 A million dollars 437 00:24:06,236 --> 00:24:09,865 to write the most ridiculous story ever heard in a courtroom. 438 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,950 But it's not going to work this time. 439 00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:16,788 It's not going to work this time because even if their story was true, 440 00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:20,208 they are still guilty of first-degree murder. 441 00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:23,295 They conspired. They were lying in wait. 442 00:24:23,378 --> 00:24:27,299 They committed a premeditated multiple murder. 443 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:32,762 The law, ladies and gentlemen, the law demands that you find them guilty. 444 00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:35,348 And the law demands that they be put to death. 445 00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:39,019 Ladies and gentlemen, some of you may have been abused. 446 00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:43,940 By a friend, a family member, a parent, sexually or otherwise. 447 00:24:44,691 --> 00:24:48,069 Unfortunately, it happens to millions of people all over the world. 448 00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:55,368 What is not common is murdering people with shotguns. 449 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:04,961 What is not common is placing a shotgun on the crown of your father's head 450 00:25:05,795 --> 00:25:07,047 and pulling the trigger. 451 00:25:08,798 --> 00:25:14,095 What is not common is placing a shotgun to the cheek of your mother, 452 00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:16,598 whose knee you shot out, 453 00:25:16,681 --> 00:25:20,101 whose fingers you've blown off and pulling the trigger. 454 00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,187 Your Honor, would the court ask Ms. Abramson 455 00:25:22,270 --> 00:25:24,940 to stop playing hangman with her client? 456 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:30,570 Counsel, will you please stop playing hangman with your client? 457 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:55,720 I would like to note that it is not my job to prove motive. 458 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:57,888 But... 459 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:02,102 it's pretty clear what the motive is here. 460 00:26:04,062 --> 00:26:05,063 It's money. 461 00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:13,363 Lyle stated that his biggest goal in life was to have a Rolex. 462 00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:15,115 And this one. 463 00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,576 Erik's never had a job. 464 00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:19,494 Lyle's had two jobs. 465 00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,288 He delivered pizza for one day, 466 00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:25,041 and he did an internship at his dad's company. 467 00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:29,629 Their father told them that he was taking them out of the will. 468 00:26:29,713 --> 00:26:32,549 So good luck, kids. You are on your own. 469 00:26:33,842 --> 00:26:35,927 They had to kill him before that happened. 470 00:26:36,636 --> 00:26:38,471 - Objection. - Overruled. 471 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:42,183 Lyle and Erik drove around Beverly Hills with a safe. 472 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:45,186 Erik slept with a safe. Who does that? 473 00:26:47,063 --> 00:26:50,358 I guess people who love money. 474 00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:53,612 Lyle opened that safe when he was all alone. 475 00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:55,780 Was the new will in there? 476 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:58,533 The one that cut him and Erik out of the will? 477 00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:02,370 We know that Erik told Craig Cignarelli 478 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:07,375 that his father had 75 to 90 million dollars in a Swiss bank account. 479 00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,545 75 to 90 million dollars. 480 00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:14,132 In the weeks and months after they murdered their parents, 481 00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:17,802 they spent, in a hurry, $700,000. 482 00:27:17,886 --> 00:27:21,765 The Jeep, the Porsche, the gambling. They lived at the Hotel Bel-Air. 483 00:27:22,432 --> 00:27:28,188 And all they had to do to get that money was for their father to be gone. 484 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:30,607 All they had to do was one little murder 485 00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:34,319 and they could have all the money in the world. 486 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:40,867 Except if... if Mom is still alive, they got nothing. 487 00:27:41,785 --> 00:27:42,785 So... 488 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:45,163 Mom had to go. 489 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:46,998 Mom had to go too. 490 00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:57,759 Ladies and gentlemen, the defendants and their legal team are guilty. 491 00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:00,679 Not just of the crime of which they are accused, 492 00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:03,348 but of something even more sinister. 493 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:09,312 They're guilty of exploiting the trauma of real sexual abuse victims everywhere 494 00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:12,440 and trying to use it to get away with murder. 495 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:19,239 They're guilty of taking the memories of the good, decent, loving mother and father 496 00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:22,117 whom they killed and dragging those memories 497 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,246 through a putrid cesspool of the ghastliest lies ever concocted. 498 00:28:26,329 --> 00:28:30,583 If there is a crime as heinous as the murders they committed, 499 00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:31,876 it just may be that. 500 00:28:32,961 --> 00:28:35,213 Jose and Kitty Menendez were sleeping. 501 00:28:36,673 --> 00:28:37,841 They were sleeping. 502 00:28:38,633 --> 00:28:42,721 So they couldn't defend themselves against the sons who executed them. 503 00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,682 They can't defend themselves now 504 00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:48,727 against the lies those sons dreamed up 505 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,563 to try to escape the consequences of their actions. 506 00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:57,318 But make no mistake, Jose and Kitty are calling to you 507 00:28:57,402 --> 00:29:00,071 from beyond the grave to defend them now. 508 00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:03,992 You, ladies and gentlemen, have that power. 509 00:29:05,118 --> 00:29:09,414 You have the power to defend them now. You have the power to avenge them! 510 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:15,503 Avenge them. 511 00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,218 Do you still keep in touch with the Goldman family? 512 00:29:22,302 --> 00:29:25,472 I do. Kim, especially. 513 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:30,310 Needless to say, they're still devastated. 514 00:29:30,393 --> 00:29:34,147 To think that O.J. Simpson is a free man 515 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:37,817 despite the overwhelming evidence against him. 516 00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:40,779 But that's justice in America for you. 517 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:44,073 Whether it's the race card or the abuse excuse, 518 00:29:44,157 --> 00:29:48,244 if you've got a defense team that knows how to game the system, 519 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:50,163 you can get away with anything. 520 00:29:50,246 --> 00:29:52,624 So, no plans to write about it? 521 00:29:52,707 --> 00:29:57,128 None. I'm actually leaving for Connecticut next week to finish my book. 522 00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,506 Crown's been breathing down my neck. 523 00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:01,841 Come on, Nick. You can't leave LA now. 524 00:30:05,011 --> 00:30:10,600 If I'm being honest, I'm a little over the Menendez boys. 525 00:30:11,267 --> 00:30:13,978 And I think so is the rest of the country. 526 00:30:14,062 --> 00:30:19,108 In the pantheon of celebrity murder trials, they're has-beens. 527 00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:20,777 The culture's moved on. 528 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:24,864 And not to be catty, but have you seen them lately? 529 00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:29,202 They've lost their luster, not to mention most of their groupies. 530 00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:35,500 However, I did hear that Lyle's in a rather serious, committed relationship. 531 00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:40,672 Her name's Anna Eriksson. 532 00:30:40,755 --> 00:30:43,925 - I love you. - It started off as pen pals, 533 00:30:44,008 --> 00:30:49,973 but now it seems Prince Lyle and his sweet Rapunzel are very much in love. 534 00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:54,978 And, rumor has it, wedding bells could be in their near future. 535 00:30:55,061 --> 00:30:58,189 And what about Erik? Any news on him? 536 00:30:58,273 --> 00:30:59,566 Ah! 537 00:30:59,649 --> 00:31:01,192 The Hurt Man. 538 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:04,863 Sounds like Erik's been having a rough time of late. 539 00:31:07,323 --> 00:31:09,868 Hey, give me back my book, please. 540 00:31:09,951 --> 00:31:12,871 - I didn't take your book. - Yeah, you did. 541 00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,248 I saw you take it. Give it back to me. 542 00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:18,126 I said, I didn't take your fucking book! 543 00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:28,636 I said, give me back my book! 544 00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:33,725 He's been thrown in the hole for several breaches of conduct, 545 00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:39,063 fights with inmates, angry outbursts, another alleged escape plan. 546 00:31:39,147 --> 00:31:44,444 It's obvious he's feeling more on edge during this second trial than the first. 547 00:31:44,527 --> 00:31:46,446 Does he still have the same girlfriend? 548 00:31:47,030 --> 00:31:49,240 Last I heard, yes. Tammi. 549 00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:50,909 She still lives in Minnesota, 550 00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:53,953 and apparently, they write each other all the time. 551 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:57,040 "To my dearest Tammi, wishing you 300 days of love." 552 00:31:57,123 --> 00:31:59,542 "We may be separated by thousands of miles, 553 00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:01,544 but I feel you near to my heart." 554 00:32:01,628 --> 00:32:04,631 So, do you think he and Lyle will be found guilty this time? 555 00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:07,175 Who's to say? 556 00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:13,264 But after Rodney King, the riots, OJ, 557 00:32:14,265 --> 00:32:19,646 I don't think this town could survive another gross injustice. 558 00:32:19,729 --> 00:32:24,108 Which may mean that after nearly seven years, two trials, 559 00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:26,653 and countless legal maneuverings, 560 00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:29,781 this could be the end of the road for Erik and Lyle, 561 00:32:29,864 --> 00:32:34,202 and they'll finally face the reckoning they deserve. 562 00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:38,373 So then, maybe, at least in the Menendez case, 563 00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,376 we'll hopefully see some justice after all. 564 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:49,050 If I still believed in hope, 565 00:32:50,426 --> 00:32:52,053 I'd certainly hope so. 566 00:32:52,553 --> 00:32:56,015 The jury has reached a verdict. Defendants, please rise. 567 00:33:01,145 --> 00:33:04,649 We, the jury, find the defendant, Joseph Lyle Menendez, 568 00:33:04,732 --> 00:33:06,693 guilty of murder in the first degree 569 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:09,904 for the murders of Jose Menendez and Mary Louise Menendez. 570 00:33:10,488 --> 00:33:13,241 We further find the special circumstance allegation 571 00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:15,743 that the defendant, Eric Galen Menendez, 572 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:19,539 intentionally killed the victims while lying in wait to be true. 573 00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:25,878 Members of the jury, is this your verdict? 574 00:33:25,962 --> 00:33:27,797 Say you one, say you all? 575 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,880 Yes. 576 00:33:30,758 --> 00:33:34,512 At this time, court will recess till Monday morning at 8:30 577 00:33:34,595 --> 00:33:36,889 when we will begin the penalty phase. 578 00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:41,477 And since both defendants have been found guilty of first-degree murder 579 00:33:41,561 --> 00:33:44,814 with special circumstances, under California law, 580 00:33:44,897 --> 00:33:48,109 the jury is only allowed to consider two sentencing options. 581 00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:51,070 Life without parole or death. 582 00:33:52,947 --> 00:33:54,115 Court is adjourned. 583 00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:59,996 Oh, don't give me that crap. Those shits deserve to die and you know it. 584 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,290 Leigh, we understand how you feel. 585 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:06,294 And trust me, I don't disagree with you, but you have to let her speak. 586 00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:09,505 Well, I'm getting sick of it. But fine, Mary, go ahead. 587 00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:13,968 I think these boys were abused their entire lives. 588 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:16,095 - Horseshit. - How can you say that? 589 00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:18,139 Because it never happened. 590 00:34:18,222 --> 00:34:20,308 But maybe it did. 591 00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:23,144 Did you hear their family? Their cousins? 592 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:26,439 Oh, come on. They paid them to say what they said. 593 00:34:26,522 --> 00:34:30,777 You can't prove that. That poor boy, Andy, how can you say that about him? 594 00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:32,862 Because he's a liar. 595 00:34:32,945 --> 00:34:35,656 If Andy cared so much about his poor little cousin, 596 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,451 why didn't he say something about it years ago? 597 00:34:39,368 --> 00:34:42,330 He was a child, and he was scared. 598 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:46,209 And what about those horrible pornographic photos of the boys? 599 00:34:46,292 --> 00:34:49,462 Oh, please. They took those photos themselves. 600 00:34:49,545 --> 00:34:51,047 How can you be so stupid? 601 00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:54,383 You saw the whole rest of the roll. They were all taken by kids. 602 00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,302 But you don't know that Jose... 603 00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:01,599 If Jose was such a pedophile, why were there only two photos, huh? 604 00:35:01,682 --> 00:35:03,059 Where were the rest of them? 605 00:35:03,726 --> 00:35:05,269 And while we're on the photos, Andrew, 606 00:35:05,353 --> 00:35:08,189 let me see the one of the boys sitting on Jose's lap. 607 00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:11,859 You really think this is sexual abuse? 608 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:14,821 Because where I come from, we call it a Christmas card. 609 00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:16,989 - Okay, we're gonna have to move... - No. No! 610 00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:21,160 Do you really want me to believe that Erik, the star athlete, 611 00:35:21,244 --> 00:35:25,540 let his father rape him all the way up till a week before the murder? 612 00:35:26,165 --> 00:35:30,336 And then all that junk about attacking him with some Rambo knife? 613 00:35:30,419 --> 00:35:31,462 It's a load of shit. 614 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:35,591 And if it was the truth, then he should've just run away or told the cops. 615 00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:39,303 Leigh, he could have been too scared to get the police involved. 616 00:35:39,387 --> 00:35:43,141 Ugh! You know what? It's like you were born under a rock or something. 617 00:35:43,224 --> 00:35:44,767 You saw Erik on the stand. 618 00:35:44,851 --> 00:35:47,812 Nothing he said made any sense. None of it! 619 00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:51,065 All he did was lie. It was all lies. 620 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:53,568 The pins and the toothbrushes. 621 00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:56,863 And don't even get me started on that creep in the wig. 622 00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,824 God only knows why he didn't testify. 623 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,076 Did you hear him on the tape 624 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,371 talking about missing his parents that he murdered? 625 00:36:05,454 --> 00:36:07,665 Like missing his dog? 626 00:36:07,748 --> 00:36:09,041 His dog?! 627 00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:13,963 Jesus Christ! I think it's the coldest thing I've ever heard anyone say. 628 00:36:14,046 --> 00:36:15,590 Fucking psycho! 629 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:19,260 You expect me to have sympathy? And what about that poor mother? 630 00:36:19,844 --> 00:36:20,928 It makes me sick. 631 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,264 Then they keep talking about how scared they were. 632 00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:26,225 If they were so scared, why didn't they run away? 633 00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:28,477 That's what you do when you're scared. 634 00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:30,813 But that's not what they did. They ran towards it. 635 00:36:30,897 --> 00:36:35,067 They ran towards the very thing that they say they were so scared of. 636 00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:37,987 It is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 637 00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:41,115 Then they come in here with some insane story 638 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,327 about Greek warriors and stuffed animals 639 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:48,497 and penis blisters and shitting in plastic Tupperware. 640 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:50,833 And you expect me to believe a word of it? 641 00:36:50,917 --> 00:36:53,628 Well, I don't! And I never will. 642 00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:57,256 Because they're evil little monsters and they deserve to die. 643 00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:00,718 And I will not stop until you all get your heads out of your asses 644 00:37:00,801 --> 00:37:02,386 and put them to death. 645 00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:06,349 You okay, Leigh? Oh my God. 646 00:37:06,432 --> 00:37:07,975 - Leigh! - Oh my God. 647 00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:09,769 Someone get some help. 648 00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:13,022 Oh my God! Somebody get some help right now! 649 00:37:13,105 --> 00:37:16,317 Oh my God! Everyone back up! Somebody help us, please! 650 00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:22,240 Um... I gotta admit, I'm pretty nervous about being here. 651 00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:26,035 It's crazy how some things work out. 652 00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:29,330 I know we haven't spoken much since I was just an alternate, 653 00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:34,961 but I've spent the last few weeks trying to figure out 654 00:37:35,044 --> 00:37:38,506 what I would do if I had to decide between life and death. 655 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:41,133 And, um... now here I am. 656 00:37:42,343 --> 00:37:47,306 We never heard anyone say they were violent or they got in any fights. 657 00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:49,934 All I heard about was how good they were. 658 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,312 All those coaches and teachers. 659 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:56,232 I... I couldn't believe how much they all cared about them. 660 00:37:57,650 --> 00:38:00,736 And I kept thinking about their relatives. 661 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:03,072 Talking about how much they loved them. 662 00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:04,991 Fighting for their lives. 663 00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:08,286 That's gotta mean something. 664 00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:13,708 Look, I honestly don't know what to believe. 665 00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:18,254 But I know if I were in their position 666 00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:21,173 and lived through what they said they lived through... 667 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,136 ...I probably would've done the same thing. 668 00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:27,680 I've definitely snapped before. 669 00:38:27,763 --> 00:38:30,933 I never killed anyone, but I've definitely snapped. 670 00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:34,020 And I know we're never gonna know what really happened in that family, 671 00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:39,567 but if there's even the slightest chance that what they said is true... 672 00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:44,071 I'll tell you right now, 673 00:38:44,905 --> 00:38:47,533 I'm not gonna be the one responsible for taking their lives 674 00:38:47,616 --> 00:38:49,869 because I think that would be a huge mistake. 675 00:38:51,537 --> 00:38:54,874 And when the time comes and we vote... 676 00:38:58,127 --> 00:38:59,545 I hope we all think about that. 677 00:39:00,421 --> 00:39:03,090 And I hope we make a decision we can live with 678 00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:05,259 just like they did that night. 679 00:39:06,844 --> 00:39:09,847 Because we're gonna have to live with it for the rest of our lives. 680 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,480 Hey. 681 00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:22,401 What? 682 00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:25,946 They're ready for you. 683 00:39:47,134 --> 00:39:48,344 Ready? 684 00:40:00,523 --> 00:40:03,442 {n8}Earlier, a jury recommended that Lyle and Eric Menendez 685 00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:06,445 {n8}be sentenced to two consecutive life terms 686 00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:10,574 {n8}for the brutal slaying of their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez. 687 00:40:10,658 --> 00:40:13,285 {n8}The jury could have recommended the death penalty, 688 00:40:13,369 --> 00:40:15,621 {n8}but after three days of deliberation, 689 00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:18,958 {n8}they opted to send the brothers to prison for the rest of their lives 690 00:40:19,041 --> 00:40:21,252 with no chance of parole. 691 00:40:21,335 --> 00:40:24,296 Mr. Conn, are you disappointed the jury didn't recommend the death penalty? 692 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,173 I think the jury did an excellent job. 693 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:27,842 We can all rest easier tonight knowing 694 00:40:27,925 --> 00:40:30,219 that Lyle and Erik Menendez will never be free men 695 00:40:30,302 --> 00:40:32,221 and that they'll both die in prison. 696 00:40:32,304 --> 00:40:36,225 Honestly, I feel a sense of enormous relief. 697 00:40:36,308 --> 00:40:37,309 Is it a win? 698 00:40:38,811 --> 00:40:40,271 Man, what's a win? 699 00:40:40,354 --> 00:40:43,065 You know, they're gonna spend the rest of their lives in prison, 700 00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:44,275 which is an awful place. 701 00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:48,446 It's better than watching them be strapped into a gurney at San Quentin 702 00:40:48,529 --> 00:40:51,657 as the State executes them by lethal injection. 703 00:40:52,825 --> 00:40:56,162 They are two tremendous human beings, 704 00:40:56,245 --> 00:41:00,207 and I feel confident that they will find a way 705 00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:03,294 to positively contribute to society from prison. 706 00:41:03,377 --> 00:41:06,547 And if they do have to spend their lives in prison, 707 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:08,507 at least they won't be alone. 708 00:41:08,591 --> 00:41:10,092 They will have each other. 709 00:41:15,014 --> 00:41:19,059 Les, I know what you're up to, trying to separate the boys. 710 00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:21,687 It's cruel. It's punitive. 711 00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:24,106 Family members stay together. 712 00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:27,860 Family members who conspired to get out of the murders they committed together? 713 00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:28,819 Ugh! Please. 714 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:31,697 God knows what they'd cook up if they lived in the same prison 715 00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:33,073 for the rest of their lives. 716 00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:35,659 You know who I was thinking about the other day? 717 00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:42,541 Every client I have ever had for 26 years. 718 00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:47,796 Everyone I have acquitted who is walking around Los Angeles. 719 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,715 And you wanna know what I realized? 720 00:41:49,798 --> 00:41:51,592 Is that Erik and Lyle Menendez 721 00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:54,970 are probably the least dangerous of all of them. 722 00:41:55,554 --> 00:41:58,098 Leslie, they're liars. 723 00:41:59,141 --> 00:42:02,561 They shot their parents while they were sleeping on a couch. 724 00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:10,569 It's actually not impossible. 725 00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:14,615 People could wake up in a few years and be like, 726 00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:18,577 "We gotta change the system, where two kids..." 727 00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:22,331 And yes, I know, what we did was very wrong, and I get that. 728 00:42:22,957 --> 00:42:26,627 But, like, to spend the rest of our lives in prison? Like, that's just... 729 00:42:28,045 --> 00:42:30,673 - What purpose does that even serve? - Erik, Erik, Erik. 730 00:42:32,883 --> 00:42:34,385 I want to say something. 731 00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:36,219 Maybe sit. 732 00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:46,605 The appeals process, it's good that you're going through that. 733 00:42:46,689 --> 00:42:47,689 Absolutely. 734 00:42:49,024 --> 00:42:53,696 But I don't want getting out of prison to be the only thing you hope for. 735 00:42:55,155 --> 00:42:56,407 Does that make sense? 736 00:42:58,284 --> 00:42:59,535 No. 737 00:42:59,618 --> 00:43:01,662 Erik, your life is in here now. 738 00:43:03,289 --> 00:43:07,209 You've got to find meaning and purpose in your life in here. 739 00:43:08,794 --> 00:43:12,548 And that is possible, Erik, to... to find a meaningful life in here. 740 00:43:13,132 --> 00:43:18,012 I've seen it happen, and I have complete faith that you will find that. 741 00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:55,132 Wake up, Menendez. 742 00:43:57,885 --> 00:43:58,969 What's going on? 743 00:43:59,053 --> 00:44:00,971 You and your brother are being transferred. 744 00:44:01,805 --> 00:44:02,805 Okay. 745 00:44:04,391 --> 00:44:05,517 Come on. Let's go. 746 00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:09,730 ♪ I knew it from the start You would break my heart ♪ 747 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:12,691 ♪ But, still I had to play This painful part ♪ 748 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,695 ♪ You wrapped me 'round Your little bitty finger ♪ 749 00:44:16,779 --> 00:44:18,280 ♪ With your magic smile ♪ 750 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:22,451 ♪ You kept me hangin' On a lover's cross awhile ♪ 751 00:44:22,951 --> 00:44:24,536 ♪ You put your spell on me ♪ 752 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,538 ♪ Took my breath away ♪ 753 00:44:26,622 --> 00:44:30,918 ♪ But there was nothin' I could do To make you stay ♪ 754 00:44:31,001 --> 00:44:32,294 ♪ I'm gonna miss you ♪ 755 00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:34,838 ♪ All the love I feel for you ♪ 756 00:44:35,714 --> 00:44:39,176 ♪ Nothing could make me Change my point of view ♪ 757 00:44:39,843 --> 00:44:44,139 ♪ Oh girl, girl, I'm gonna miss you baby ♪ 758 00:44:44,973 --> 00:44:47,559 ♪ Giving all the love I feel for you ♪ 759 00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:50,896 ♪ Couldn't make you change Your point of view ♪ 760 00:44:50,979 --> 00:44:54,191 ♪ You're leavin' ♪ 761 00:44:57,528 --> 00:45:00,614 ♪ Now I'm sittin' here, wastin' my time ♪ 762 00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:02,408 ♪ I just don't know... ♪ 763 00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:03,701 Erik Menendez. 764 00:45:04,451 --> 00:45:05,703 - Yeah? - Hop in. 765 00:45:05,786 --> 00:45:06,786 Where are we going? 766 00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:09,915 Folsom Prison. Get comfy. It's a long drive. 767 00:45:11,917 --> 00:45:18,632 ♪ It's a tragedy for me to see The dream is over ♪ 768 00:45:19,842 --> 00:45:21,802 - Is... - I said hop in. 769 00:45:23,011 --> 00:45:26,557 ♪ Girl, I'm gonna miss you ♪ 770 00:45:41,196 --> 00:45:43,532 ♪ Like a honey bee You took the best of me ♪ 771 00:45:44,032 --> 00:45:46,785 ♪ Now I can't erase those memories ♪ 772 00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:49,830 ♪ Like a fairy tale you were so unreal ♪ 773 00:45:50,372 --> 00:45:53,083 ♪ You left a scar that's so hard to heal ♪ 774 00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:56,420 ♪ When you had a taste of paradise ♪ 775 00:45:56,503 --> 00:45:59,298 ♪ Back on earth can feel as cold as ice ♪ 776 00:45:59,381 --> 00:46:00,924 ♪ I'm gonna miss you ♪ 777 00:46:02,134 --> 00:46:04,511 ♪ I'm gonna miss you I'm gonna miss you ♪ 778 00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:05,888 ♪ I miss you ♪ 779 00:46:05,971 --> 00:46:08,056 ♪ Giving all the love I feel for you ♪ 780 00:46:08,932 --> 00:46:11,769 ♪ Couldn't make you Change your point of view ♪ 781 00:46:11,852 --> 00:46:15,063 ♪ You're leavin' ♪ 782 00:46:18,442 --> 00:46:21,779 ♪ Now I'm sittin' here, wastin' my time ♪ 783 00:46:22,279 --> 00:46:27,075 ♪ I just don't know what I should do ♪ 784 00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:39,838 ♪ It's a tragedy for me to see The dream is over ♪ 785 00:46:39,922 --> 00:46:43,926 ♪ And I never will forget the day we met ♪ 786 00:46:44,009 --> 00:46:47,054 ♪ Girl, I'm gonna miss you ♪ 787 00:46:47,137 --> 00:46:49,306 ♪ It's a tragedy for me... ♪ 788 00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:51,350 Wait, why isn't the other van following us? 789 00:46:51,433 --> 00:46:54,102 Where... I thought we were going to Folsom. 790 00:46:54,186 --> 00:46:57,689 You're going to Folsom. Your brother's going someplace else. 791 00:46:58,357 --> 00:46:59,191 Where? 792 00:46:59,274 --> 00:47:01,860 ♪... miss you ♪ 793 00:47:13,914 --> 00:47:16,291 It is beautiful. 794 00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:19,711 You know that there is a shipwreck right underneath us, 200 feet down? 795 00:47:19,795 --> 00:47:21,380 That's where the sharks are? 796 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,508 - Out here. - Wait, are we fishing for sharks? 797 00:47:24,591 --> 00:47:26,510 Yeah. Didn't I tell you? 798 00:47:26,593 --> 00:47:30,430 No, no, no. You said we were fishing. You did not say shark fishing. 799 00:47:32,808 --> 00:47:36,603 I told you about the guy from Arista that I met with in New York. 800 00:47:36,687 --> 00:47:38,397 I was trying to close a deal with him 801 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,441 and he said that he loves the shark fishing shit. 802 00:47:41,525 --> 00:47:44,111 And I lied to him. And I said, "Yeah, me too!" 803 00:47:44,194 --> 00:47:47,281 "Let's do a shark fishing trip next time you're in town!" 804 00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:49,700 So I got to know what I'm talking about. 805 00:47:50,742 --> 00:47:54,913 - What kind of sharks are we fishing? - I don't know. Um... 806 00:47:55,914 --> 00:47:56,832 No idea. 807 00:47:56,915 --> 00:47:59,084 Uh, Captain. Captain. 808 00:47:59,585 --> 00:48:00,419 Yes, sir. 809 00:48:00,502 --> 00:48:02,588 What kind of sharks are we getting today? 810 00:48:02,671 --> 00:48:07,259 Uh, we're looking at blue sharks, mako, maybe a great white. 811 00:48:07,342 --> 00:48:08,886 But they'll be juveniles mostly. 812 00:48:08,969 --> 00:48:10,888 - Okay. Juveniles! - Oh great! 813 00:48:10,971 --> 00:48:13,307 Jaws is going to bite my arm off. 814 00:48:16,768 --> 00:48:18,395 I hated it when you went on trips. 815 00:48:19,479 --> 00:48:23,025 Stuck me with those boys all by myself while you were off with her. 816 00:48:23,108 --> 00:48:27,321 Kitty cat, look at me. Look at me, Kitty cat. No, no, no. 817 00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:28,447 That is over. 818 00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:32,576 I chased the wrong things. I chased shit for a long time. 819 00:48:33,118 --> 00:48:37,122 The thing that I needed the most, I had it with me. 820 00:48:37,205 --> 00:48:38,332 I had you. 821 00:48:41,668 --> 00:48:42,753 And I love you. 822 00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:50,344 It wasn't easy, but we fucking did it. We made it. 823 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,516 And you know what, you should go back to journalism, Kitty. 824 00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,645 Wait, what? No. 825 00:48:59,728 --> 00:49:01,730 Yes, I mean it. I'll tell you why. 826 00:49:02,481 --> 00:49:06,360 Because if I am running for Senate, you could be writing about me. 827 00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:12,115 Oh yeah! Report on how wonderful a husband I am. 828 00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:15,702 Oh yeah? You better not be joking because I just might. 829 00:49:17,162 --> 00:49:20,082 Okay, guys! It's time to chum up the water. 830 00:49:21,249 --> 00:49:22,249 Here we go. 831 00:49:23,001 --> 00:49:25,337 You wanna kinda dribble it in here. 832 00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:26,296 Oh dear God. 833 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:27,506 I can't! 834 00:49:30,175 --> 00:49:32,094 Boys, come back here! 835 00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:36,515 - What is going on with them? - I don't know. 836 00:49:36,598 --> 00:49:38,600 Who the fuck knows? Just let them be. 837 00:49:52,114 --> 00:49:53,907 You're not chickening out, are you? 838 00:49:55,033 --> 00:49:56,201 We bought the guns. 839 00:50:01,915 --> 00:50:02,916 No. 840 00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:08,630 Let's fucking do it. 841 00:50:13,844 --> 00:50:14,845 Yeah. 842 00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:20,726 Let's fucking do it.