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You have the autopsy report.
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I don't need to go over that.
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Blunt force trauma...
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and a cervical fracture.
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Somebody broke his neck.
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Brought him to that cave.
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Folded his hands, I guess.
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Alan.
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Talk to me about
Oklahoma. You have to, man.
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Wayne, this isn't the time...
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How many sets of prints were taken?
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Do they know she was one of
the robbers and not a customer?
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If they found her, you wouldn't
even be talkin' to me, right?
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Do they have video surveillance?
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Mr. Hays, the purpose of this deposition
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is to give your statement,
not to extract one from us.
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I'm pretty easygoin',
but go away already.
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I don't think I will.
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Look, we're not at
liberty to divulge details
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of an ongoing police investigation,
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nor to share discovery items with anyone
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other than the prosecutor's office.
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Now, you can talk to them,
if they'll talk to you...
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All right, stop.
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Wayne.
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Finish up today, all right?
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Then after, we'll speak.
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I'm sayin'...
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we'll talk. Okay?
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Now, you were sayin'.
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You questioned people during this time.
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- Right?
- Do you know another way to do it?
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The father worked
at Wilson Body Works,
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where they used to make
parts for school buses.
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We talked to everybody there.
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Employed about a hundred
people from West Finger.
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The dolls were their own thing.
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Wasn't gettin' us anywhere, either.
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Thank you very much.
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That guy collected garbage, Woodard.
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We talked to him too.
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I saw the kids. They were
pedaling into the sun.
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Headed west?
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We went by your place.
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You sorta collect things, huh?
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I salvage trash that I can sell.
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You don't need to make
it sound better than that.
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You got any other properties?
Anywhere you keep things?
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I don't have anyplace else.
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What'd you do before this?
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Before you collected scrap.
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Uh, came back from overseas. '72.
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Did some carpentry.
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Construction dropped off.
Things didn't work out.
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My marriage. Stuff.
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I was gone too long.
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About four years ago she left me.
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Took the kids.
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I was motor pool.
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My man here was a LRRP. Two tours.
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Detective Hays. They called
him Purple Hays over there.
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You miss your family?
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I... Yeah.
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I miss being someone that way...
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a way I could have a family.
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You were recon?
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Seventy-fifth Infantry.
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Sergeant.
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You must be pretty insane.
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Volunteerin' for that.
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I didn't think about it
much, tell ya the truth.
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I ain't one of them burnouts.
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Ya know, comes back bustin'
guys up, gettin' high.
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And I ain't a bum.
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I keep a house. I pay my way!
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Hey. I ain't judgin', man.
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Look, I punch in and out.
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I put on a suit in the mornin'.
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And bein' honest...
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I don't have much of a life.
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So why?
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Why punch in?
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Why the suit? Why...
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I don't ask myself questions like that.
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Could be I'm too
chickenshit, Mr. Woodard.
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It ain't my world.
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Less than yours, even.
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But I did pretty good
at following orders.
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Now...
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You ever do this?
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I miss when "Don't get killed"
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was the only thing on my to-do list.
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It's hard to unplug from that.
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I spent a year comin' down.
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Just to go back over it, you
sure you didn't see anything?
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I told you.
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I saw the teenagers out there, too.
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I was goin' in the other direction.
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You like kids, generally?
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Do...
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What the fuck's the
right answer to that?
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You think I...
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Listen, I got two kids, okay?
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Where are they?
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I don't know.
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She didn't tell me.
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And I haven't gone lookin'.
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If I'd never left...
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I think it'd have been fine.
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But to go, and come back...
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I just couldn't put myself back
in that old story, that's all.
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And I couldn't leave
it, either. Ya know?
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You ever been someplace
you couldn't leave,
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and you couldn't stay...
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both at the same time?
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Do you remember the place?
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I remember.
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I can tell you all
that none of us will rest
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until we achieve justice in the matter.
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Our detectives are hard at work,
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and this is priority
one for law enforcement
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in Washington County
and Northwest Arkansas.
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Now, it's temporary,
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but we're gonna have to
have a curfew for a little while.
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It's important that we keep
an eye on our kids right now,
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and we want to make sure you
know where they are at all times,
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and that they're indoors by 8:00.
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Now, we can't really say too
much about the investigation,
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but I'm here to answer
any questions I can.
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Well, I don't let mine
go near Devil's Den.
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Everybody knows you got
something happenin' in it.
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Bums, junkies.
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Queers meet up out there.
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You have a question, sir?
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I wanna know what y'all are
doing to break up that stuff.
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Clean up that park!
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What about these junkies?
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You got heroin in Arkansas now.
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Right now our focus is tryin'
to find this little girl
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and bring her home.
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We're considering every possibility.
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And what about that fella
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always diggin' through
everybody's trash?
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Mr. Kindt, can you tell us
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if they think the girl is still alive?
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It's our hope that she's alive, yes.
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But again, I really can't discuss any
of the details of the investigation.
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Now, our detectives have a
pair of Xeroxes to pass out.
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One is a picture of Julie Purcell.
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The other is the kind of
backpack that the boy, Will, had.
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It's red and has his name on it.
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Now, if anyone has any
information of potential interest,
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no matter how far afield,
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share it with us.
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And trust that we will not
let this terrible, cowardly act
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go unpunished.
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Your old boss
got real vocal around then.
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Gerald Kindt had an election
comin' up the next year.
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I know. I guess that works to
some point in your petition.
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It's worth notin', I
think, his motivations.
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Well...
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now he's fuckin' State Attorney General.
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But we didn't work for
him. He was your boss.
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Oh, not for a good while now.
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The broken neck is clear.
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But the way the arms were folded...
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- I know.
- And the other thing.
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The hell are those dolls for?
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Correct. Look familiar, some way.
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Like the kind of thing at country fairs.
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What do you get from
that crowd in there?
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They're worried.
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Could be thinkin' it
coulda been a neighbor.
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Had 'em sign in. Saw some
shifty eyes in there, but...
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may be my redneck radar.
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I don't know.
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Excuse me.
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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You found him, didn't you?
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You look like you haven't
slept in a couple days.
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Work to do. How's it at school?
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Sad.
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People are scared.
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Well...
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been askin' about this.
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We haven't gotten anything.
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I don't know, you
knowin' the kids and such.
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You ever seen anything like this?
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Seen a kid with a doll like this?
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Uh, maybe. I don't know.
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Looks like something you'd find
in a craft store or something.
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I... I haven't seen any
of the kids with them.
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Can I keep this?
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Uh, sure.
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I'll ask around with the kids,
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maybe check with the other teachers.
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All right. Thanks.
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Uh...
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Amelia.
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- Okay, I gotta go.
- All right.
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Be safe.
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Now, this family...
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Haven't we spent
enough time with this?
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It's helpin' me.
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Bringin' things back.
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How's that?
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Your mother.
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I, uh...
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I have trouble seein' her sometimes.
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Or, uh... I know who she is,
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but the parts of our lives, pieces...
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I can't picture 'em.
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You think Mom wants
you to keep doin' this?
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It's bringin' things
back. Goin' over the case.
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I'm rememberin' things.
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My life. Your sister.
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You know when the last
time I saw Rebecca?
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Mom's funeral?
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I think you talked on the
phone a few months back.
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You sure you wanna keep
talkin' to the TV people?
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That woman, the director...
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I wanna know what she's after.
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What they might know now.
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She said she'd, uh, show
me somethin' next time.
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She's baitin' ya, Dad.
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Do you think she cares at
all about you or who did it?
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She just wants people
to watch her shitty show.
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And I think...
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Mom would want you to move on.
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Enjoy the family you have around you.
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Well...
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she and I always had different
ideas. I remember that.
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Wayne. Roland.
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Special Agents Burt
Diller and John Bowen.
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Thanks, Detective, we'll
get these back ASAP.
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Want you to know we have no intention
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of impeding or usurping
your investigation.
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This is a Task Force.
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One unit with a common goal.
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Feds are gonna take the
lead with the kidnappin'.
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You two are still point
on the death investigation.
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Both of which will hopefully
lead to the same solution.
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Everybody shares everything.
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We'll be doing debriefs
first thing every mornin'.
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Everybody turns in dailies.
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How you guys wanna go forward?
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We got a multi-state
APB out on the girl.
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Checkpoints along state
lines. Agents advised.
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Let us get caught up.
We'll figure our next move.
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Time?
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You two have somewhere to be?
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We got a funeral to get to.
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I know we spoke on the phone, but...
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want to touch base
on a couple of things.
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What's that?
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I haven't been out here since last May.
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You stayed in the boy,
Will's, room, right?
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Yeah. Told you I did.
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You leave a couple magazines behind?
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Under the mattress?
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Ohh, damn. Yeah, maybe I did.
263
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,430
Should I, uh...
264
00:17:00,432 --> 00:17:03,221
- Never mind.
- You recall anything
265
00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:04,929
from the time you spent in the house
266
00:17:04,931 --> 00:17:06,680
might be worth mentioning?
267
00:17:06,682 --> 00:17:09,388
Like you ever see anybody
talkin' to the kids?
268
00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:11,680
Any adults you didn't recognize?
269
00:17:11,682 --> 00:17:15,887
Nah. Nah, can't say I
recall anything like that.
270
00:17:15,889 --> 00:17:18,804
Them kids, they kept
to themselves a lot.
271
00:17:18,806 --> 00:17:21,513
The house was a pretty tense place.
272
00:17:21,515 --> 00:17:24,762
You can probably tell, Lucy
and Tom aren't real happy.
273
00:17:24,764 --> 00:17:26,721
Before any of this.
274
00:17:26,723 --> 00:17:30,580
Will and Julie, they play
outside the house a lot?
275
00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:34,096
Yeah. I think so. I don't think
they liked being around there.
276
00:17:34,098 --> 00:17:38,179
You know, Mom and Dad
angry all the time.
277
00:17:45,014 --> 00:17:47,263
Were you pretty close to Will and Julie?
278
00:17:47,265 --> 00:17:50,388
I don't know. We got along.
279
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:53,430
I played with them a couple times.
280
00:17:53,432 --> 00:17:56,138
They didn't see me much
before I stayed here.
281
00:17:56,140 --> 00:17:57,846
But they were good kids.
282
00:17:57,848 --> 00:18:00,056
What do you think of Tom?
283
00:18:02,764 --> 00:18:05,304
He's an all right guy.
284
00:18:05,306 --> 00:18:07,401
I feel sorry for him.
285
00:18:07,404 --> 00:18:09,820
I felt for him even before all this.
286
00:18:11,806 --> 00:18:13,804
I mean, in my opinion,
287
00:18:13,806 --> 00:18:16,473
Lucy always needed, like, a strong male.
288
00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:21,721
You stayin' in town long?
289
00:18:21,723 --> 00:18:23,971
Nah, I gotta get back to work.
290
00:18:23,973 --> 00:18:26,804
Family could probably use you around.
291
00:18:26,806 --> 00:18:28,471
I can't get the time off.
292
00:18:28,473 --> 00:18:31,471
It's not like there's
a lot I can do for 'em.
293
00:18:31,473 --> 00:18:33,096
And the night of?
294
00:18:33,098 --> 00:18:35,806
Your neighbor can
confirm you were at home?
295
00:18:39,390 --> 00:18:41,346
I don't know if they can or not.
296
00:18:41,348 --> 00:18:44,138
But you could check with the
Starlight Bar in Springfield.
297
00:18:44,140 --> 00:18:46,721
I had a couple there after
work, and then I went home
298
00:18:46,723 --> 00:18:49,012
and watched CHiPs.
299
00:18:49,014 --> 00:18:51,430
You wanna search my place?
300
00:18:51,432 --> 00:18:53,205
Would that be okay?
301
00:18:54,584 --> 00:18:55,959
Sure.
302
00:18:57,347 --> 00:18:58,803
But maybe...
303
00:18:58,806 --> 00:19:01,557
you should be out there
tryin' to find my niece.
304
00:19:04,973 --> 00:19:07,056
I'm gonna get back to Lucy.
305
00:19:13,181 --> 00:19:15,887
Like we said over the phone,
306
00:19:15,889 --> 00:19:20,179
we hadn't seen or talked with
the kids since last Christmas.
307
00:19:20,181 --> 00:19:22,973
Nearly a year ago.
308
00:19:24,348 --> 00:19:25,887
She doesn't like us.
309
00:19:25,889 --> 00:19:27,430
That's Lucy, you mean?
310
00:19:27,432 --> 00:19:29,799
'Loise, let's don't, now.
311
00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,467
Why not now?
312
00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:34,928
Why not just say it?
The children are lost.
313
00:19:34,931 --> 00:19:37,179
Yes, I mean Lucy.
314
00:19:37,181 --> 00:19:39,304
She runs around on Tom, you know.
315
00:19:39,306 --> 00:19:41,638
Every marriage has its own story.
316
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,971
Nobody knows except the two involved.
317
00:19:43,973 --> 00:19:46,265
Bull. She was a terrible...
318
00:19:47,348 --> 00:19:49,054
You know,
319
00:19:49,056 --> 00:19:52,388
there's been some wonderin' about Julie.
320
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:53,971
Don't. Not today.
321
00:19:53,973 --> 00:19:55,555
Tom was workin' offshore.
322
00:19:55,557 --> 00:19:58,460
Could have been weldin' in
Texas when Julie was conceived.
323
00:19:58,463 --> 00:20:02,054
- Now, I've wondered...
- Goddamnit!!!
324
00:20:02,056 --> 00:20:05,515
Not today, Eloise. Not today.
325
00:20:08,473 --> 00:20:10,764
Hey.
326
00:20:12,764 --> 00:20:16,098
Why don't the two of y'all
get out of my house for today?
327
00:20:17,962 --> 00:20:19,629
Mom, Dad.
328
00:20:35,931 --> 00:20:38,263
Yes, I got it now.
329
00:20:38,265 --> 00:20:39,929
There's a web forum that posts
330
00:20:39,931 --> 00:20:41,471
about real-life criminal cases,
331
00:20:41,473 --> 00:20:44,263
things that are unsolved or unresolved.
332
00:20:44,265 --> 00:20:46,889
They have a whole section
on the Purcell case.
333
00:20:51,265 --> 00:20:53,764
This is what people do now?
334
00:20:55,390 --> 00:20:58,138
They go in lots of directions.
335
00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:00,138
Did you know at various times since,
336
00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:02,721
large-scale pedophile rings
connected to people of influence
337
00:21:02,723 --> 00:21:04,596
were uncovered in the surrounding areas?
338
00:21:04,598 --> 00:21:07,140
Do you know about the Franklin scandal?
339
00:21:08,348 --> 00:21:10,513
No.
340
00:21:10,515 --> 00:21:12,304
It's been theorized that the straw dolls
341
00:21:12,306 --> 00:21:16,138
are a sign of pedophile
groups, like the crooked spiral.
342
00:21:16,147 --> 00:21:18,188
I don't think that's right.
343
00:21:21,889 --> 00:21:26,471
Can I ask, with what happened in
1990 and you leaving the force,
344
00:21:26,473 --> 00:21:28,676
did you ever feel your leads and theories
345
00:21:28,679 --> 00:21:30,760
were discounted because of your race?
346
00:21:31,931 --> 00:21:35,513
Not particularly, no. Why?
347
00:21:35,515 --> 00:21:38,596
I'm interested in the
intersectionality of marginalized groups
348
00:21:38,598 --> 00:21:42,140
within authoritarian and
systemic racist structures.
349
00:21:48,223 --> 00:21:50,929
Well, anyways, those...
Those dolls from the scene,
350
00:21:50,931 --> 00:21:52,762
they were a significant lead.
351
00:21:52,764 --> 00:21:56,721
Amelia. She's the one
helped us out with that.
352
00:21:56,723 --> 00:21:58,515
Got us that lead.
353
00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:11,721
Have you seen a doll
that looks like this?
354
00:22:11,723 --> 00:22:13,680
- No.
- Not you?
355
00:22:13,682 --> 00:22:16,223
Okay, well, you let me
know if you do, okay?
356
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:31,680
Mike.
357
00:22:31,682 --> 00:22:34,682
Have you seen this doll before?
358
00:22:35,931 --> 00:22:38,304
H-Halloween.
359
00:22:38,306 --> 00:22:41,721
Somebody was passing them
out at trick-or-treat,
360
00:22:41,723 --> 00:22:42,889
I think.
361
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,388
Julie... she got one.
362
00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:52,346
This Halloween you went
trick-or-treating with her?
363
00:22:52,348 --> 00:22:56,346
We met her and her brother
and... and some other kids.
364
00:22:56,348 --> 00:22:59,432
We live on the next street over.
365
00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:04,473
It's okay.
366
00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:25,762
Tom?
367
00:23:25,764 --> 00:23:27,804
Tom!
368
00:23:27,868 --> 00:23:29,285
Tom!
369
00:23:30,265 --> 00:23:32,096
Hey, what... what...
370
00:23:32,098 --> 00:23:33,971
What ya doin' back up here, brother?
371
00:23:33,973 --> 00:23:35,430
'Talkin' about?
372
00:23:35,432 --> 00:23:37,889
This is my usual shift. Four years.
373
00:23:48,132 --> 00:23:51,632
What's you're fuckin'
problem? My dick showin'?
374
00:23:56,848 --> 00:23:58,762
Hey, Tom.
375
00:23:58,764 --> 00:24:01,804
You sure you wanna
be back at work today?
376
00:24:01,806 --> 00:24:05,598
I been workin' full-time
since I was fourteen years old.
377
00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:10,973
You want me to sit at home
with this shit in my head now?
378
00:24:15,682 --> 00:24:18,555
How long you motherfuckers
gonna stare at me?!
379
00:24:18,557 --> 00:24:22,179
Somebody got something to say about me?!
380
00:24:22,181 --> 00:24:24,138
My family?!
381
00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:25,971
Huh?! Somebody know somethin' I don't...
382
00:24:25,973 --> 00:24:28,971
Tom? Hi.
383
00:24:28,973 --> 00:24:32,304
We didn't plan on havin'
you back this soon.
384
00:24:32,306 --> 00:24:34,555
Well, I gotta earn a livin'.
385
00:24:34,557 --> 00:24:38,221
Well, the thing is, we, uh...
386
00:24:38,223 --> 00:24:40,179
we put you on leave.
387
00:24:40,181 --> 00:24:41,762
Well, I didn't ask for that, okay?
388
00:24:41,764 --> 00:24:45,304
Now, I gotta work. You
tellin' me I can't work?
389
00:24:45,306 --> 00:24:48,244
Look, with everything that's happenin',
390
00:24:48,247 --> 00:24:49,682
it's a little disruptive.
391
00:24:50,972 --> 00:24:53,512
People have other things on their mind?
392
00:24:53,515 --> 00:24:55,221
These machines?
393
00:24:55,223 --> 00:24:58,181
That's how accidents
happen. You know that, Tom.
394
00:25:00,056 --> 00:25:02,557
I'm the guy nobody wants to be, huh?
395
00:25:06,265 --> 00:25:08,598
I'm the fuckin' joke, right?
396
00:25:09,764 --> 00:25:12,388
You shouldn't look at it like that.
397
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:15,598
But you ain't comin' back
to work right now, Tom.
398
00:25:20,056 --> 00:25:22,887
Well, fuck everything, anyway!
399
00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:25,596
Yeah, fuck each of ya!
400
00:25:25,598 --> 00:25:27,889
I quit!
401
00:25:32,881 --> 00:25:35,674
You remember which
house was givin' these out?
402
00:25:37,515 --> 00:25:39,598
Who else got one?
403
00:25:44,048 --> 00:25:46,046
Mike...
404
00:25:46,056 --> 00:25:48,432
did you see her get the doll?
405
00:25:50,098 --> 00:25:51,721
No, ma'am.
406
00:25:51,723 --> 00:25:54,221
When did you see she had it?
407
00:25:54,223 --> 00:25:56,221
It was like at the end.
408
00:25:56,223 --> 00:25:58,762
We were all showing what we got,
409
00:25:58,764 --> 00:26:01,283
and she had the doll in
her trick-or-treat bag.
410
00:26:01,286 --> 00:26:03,075
Did you stay
in the neighborhood,
411
00:26:03,078 --> 00:26:04,867
or did you drive somewhere?
412
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:06,954
We just walked.
413
00:26:09,432 --> 00:26:12,764
Thanks, Mike. You're really helpin'.
414
00:26:13,931 --> 00:26:15,171
Hey.
415
00:26:15,174 --> 00:26:17,221
What'd you go as for Halloween?
416
00:26:17,223 --> 00:26:19,179
Luke Skywalker.
417
00:26:19,181 --> 00:26:20,721
Cool, man.
418
00:26:20,723 --> 00:26:23,306
My partner, he loved that movie.
419
00:26:41,014 --> 00:26:44,138
Say...
420
00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:46,638
were you with Julie and
her brother the whole night?
421
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,179
Or was there ever a time
y'all went different ways?
422
00:26:51,181 --> 00:26:55,971
Yeah. They'd been to a couple
houses before we met up.
423
00:26:55,973 --> 00:26:59,304
But I don't think she had the doll then.
424
00:26:59,306 --> 00:27:01,929
How 'bout the rest of the night?
425
00:27:01,931 --> 00:27:05,804
We mighta split up once or twice.
426
00:27:05,806 --> 00:27:08,721
But... not for long.
427
00:27:08,723 --> 00:27:11,179
I saw her talking to people.
428
00:27:11,181 --> 00:27:13,014
Adults, maybe.
429
00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:15,971
They were two ghosts.
430
00:27:15,973 --> 00:27:17,973
Just in big sheets.
431
00:27:19,798 --> 00:27:22,340
You don't know who the ghosts were?
432
00:27:25,056 --> 00:27:27,848
Can you show us where it was y'all went?
433
00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:31,306
Here.
434
00:28:12,556 --> 00:28:15,053
You musta had some good times.
435
00:28:15,056 --> 00:28:19,054
- When y'all meet?
- Hmm...
436
00:28:19,056 --> 00:28:22,762
thirteen years back.
437
00:28:22,764 --> 00:28:25,723
We got married 'cause she was pregnant.
438
00:28:27,723 --> 00:28:30,430
How long you knew her before?
439
00:28:30,432 --> 00:28:32,306
Not long.
440
00:28:33,764 --> 00:28:37,138
Got married three months after we met.
441
00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:40,263
The Fort Smith courthouse.
442
00:28:40,265 --> 00:28:42,401
Me and Lucy, we...
443
00:28:42,404 --> 00:28:47,283
We never really knew each other,
we just... well, had the kids.
444
00:28:53,515 --> 00:28:55,471
My kids. Will and...
445
00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:12,598
Are we gonna find Julie, or what?
446
00:29:14,181 --> 00:29:17,887
'Cause I can't live through this, man.
447
00:29:17,889 --> 00:29:21,014
Neither of us can.
448
00:29:23,973 --> 00:29:27,098
If we're not gonna find
her, I just need to know now.
449
00:29:32,674 --> 00:29:35,672
I can't go to sleep...
450
00:29:37,265 --> 00:29:39,473
...and I can't wake up.
451
00:29:42,473 --> 00:29:45,304
Now, you're sayin'
last week, Halloween,
452
00:29:45,306 --> 00:29:46,638
girl got one of these dolls,
453
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,762
and then you found two of
them at the crime scene?
454
00:29:48,764 --> 00:29:50,846
It's an identifier, boss.
455
00:29:50,848 --> 00:29:52,638
So what do you want to do?
456
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,555
We wondered maybe let's put
it out on the TV or paper.
457
00:29:56,557 --> 00:29:58,921
Ask everybody if they seen one of those,
458
00:29:58,924 --> 00:30:01,471
or know who makes 'em around here.
459
00:30:01,473 --> 00:30:04,721
But that'd tip our hand.
We're not ready for that.
460
00:30:04,724 --> 00:30:06,015
What's better...
461
00:30:06,018 --> 00:30:08,846
There's 114 households
in the marked area
462
00:30:08,848 --> 00:30:10,555
and the subdivision near it.
463
00:30:10,557 --> 00:30:12,179
We do total surveillance.
464
00:30:12,181 --> 00:30:14,887
We have people searchin'
every single house.
465
00:30:14,889 --> 00:30:18,012
Oh, come on. You don't have enough
for one warrant, much less a hundred.
466
00:30:18,014 --> 00:30:21,762
No warrants. Say, two days, maybe three.
467
00:30:21,764 --> 00:30:23,934
Every detective we have.
468
00:30:23,937 --> 00:30:26,101
Pull in more feds, you want.
469
00:30:26,104 --> 00:30:28,804
Everybody just knocks and
asks if they can search.
470
00:30:28,806 --> 00:30:31,388
Say it'll help with the Purcell case.
471
00:30:31,390 --> 00:30:33,846
People won't like it...
472
00:30:33,848 --> 00:30:35,929
but a lot, I bet...
473
00:30:35,931 --> 00:30:37,804
a lot of people let us look around.
474
00:30:37,806 --> 00:30:39,804
We keep surveillance.
475
00:30:39,806 --> 00:30:41,971
See if somebody starts actin' hinky.
476
00:30:41,973 --> 00:30:44,898
Nobody escapes the net.
Our guy panics or somethin',
477
00:30:44,901 --> 00:30:47,151
we do it fast... Without announcement.
478
00:30:47,154 --> 00:30:48,679
Even if you find anything,
479
00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:50,555
it could be problematic at trial.
480
00:30:50,557 --> 00:30:52,377
This is about the girl, not a trial.
481
00:30:53,526 --> 00:30:55,846
Something happened on
Halloween, that night.
482
00:30:55,848 --> 00:30:57,638
She gets that doll.
483
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,513
A week later, she and
her brother are gone,
484
00:30:59,515 --> 00:31:01,430
and you got two of those
things on the scene.
485
00:31:01,432 --> 00:31:03,788
Maybe the perp
just brought 'em somewhere.
486
00:31:03,791 --> 00:31:06,221
You know? Maybe the dolls
belonged to the girl.
487
00:31:06,223 --> 00:31:09,887
It's all maybes, man. You do
the maybe that gives you a shot.
488
00:31:09,889 --> 00:31:11,854
No, it's thin.
489
00:31:11,857 --> 00:31:15,929
And our constituents here, they
value privacy and property rights.
490
00:31:15,931 --> 00:31:18,096
They aren't just gonna acquiesce
491
00:31:18,098 --> 00:31:20,557
to random searches of their homes.
492
00:31:21,674 --> 00:31:23,595
There's other ways to approach it.
493
00:31:23,598 --> 00:31:26,596
If we bring in the public,
it stirs up the town
494
00:31:26,598 --> 00:31:28,762
and lets our guy know
what we're thinkin'.
495
00:31:28,764 --> 00:31:32,432
Maybe he takes off. Maybe he just
kills her... if he hasn't already.
496
00:31:34,557 --> 00:31:37,179
We can just do it fast.
497
00:31:37,181 --> 00:31:39,598
People will get over it.
498
00:31:42,197 --> 00:31:43,430
Warren.
499
00:31:43,432 --> 00:31:45,640
Just give us some time, Roland.
500
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Been runnin' this sting.
501
00:32:13,682 --> 00:32:16,638
Truck stop next door. Prosts and drugs.
502
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,179
I was gonna check this
guy out at some point.
503
00:32:19,181 --> 00:32:21,929
He asked one of the workin' girls
504
00:32:21,931 --> 00:32:23,471
if they had any younger friends.
505
00:32:23,473 --> 00:32:26,346
And another said he asked her, too.
506
00:32:26,348 --> 00:32:29,929
Came in here lookin'
for special magazines.
507
00:32:29,932 --> 00:32:32,632
Ted LaGrange. Pulled his file.
508
00:32:32,635 --> 00:32:34,804
He got outta Wrightsville a while back.
509
00:32:34,806 --> 00:32:36,483
Carnal knowledge of a minor.
510
00:32:36,486 --> 00:32:39,640
Enticing a minor. Buncha shit.
511
00:32:41,973 --> 00:32:45,223
Callin' himself "Robert" somethin' now.
512
00:32:46,348 --> 00:32:47,848
Thanks, Rich.
513
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,680
Man...
514
00:32:52,682 --> 00:32:55,348
you gotta come in here every day?
515
00:32:57,181 --> 00:32:59,181
Welcome to Vice.
516
00:33:09,682 --> 00:33:12,721
♪ I love my man ♪
517
00:33:12,723 --> 00:33:16,181
♪ I'm a liar if I say I don't ♪
518
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:21,596
♪ I love my man ♪
519
00:33:21,598 --> 00:33:25,054
♪ I'm a liar if I say I don't... ♪
520
00:33:25,056 --> 00:33:28,263
I haven't seen you here before, have I?
521
00:33:28,265 --> 00:33:31,346
I'm usually at the VFW.
522
00:33:31,348 --> 00:33:34,263
♪ I'm a liar if I say I won't... ♪
523
00:33:34,265 --> 00:33:38,555
Want to thank you for everything
you did today with the kid.
524
00:33:38,557 --> 00:33:42,471
He wasn't talkin' to us
'til you opened him up.
525
00:33:42,473 --> 00:33:45,012
Real grateful for that.
526
00:33:45,014 --> 00:33:48,388
He was broken up about it.
527
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:51,223
I think he had a crush on Julie.
528
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:55,388
Why'd you give me that picture?
529
00:33:55,390 --> 00:33:57,721
The doll.
530
00:33:57,723 --> 00:34:00,388
Instinct, I guess.
531
00:34:00,390 --> 00:34:02,931
I knew the kids weren't talkin' to us.
532
00:34:04,931 --> 00:34:06,931
You were in the war?
533
00:34:08,515 --> 00:34:10,430
You're a cop,
534
00:34:10,432 --> 00:34:14,179
so you want to know more about a
person, you just look 'em up, huh?
535
00:34:14,181 --> 00:34:16,098
Pretty much.
536
00:34:17,098 --> 00:34:19,265
Did you look me up?
537
00:34:23,515 --> 00:34:25,557
Thought about it, though.
538
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:34,304
I was born here.
539
00:34:34,306 --> 00:34:36,846
I went to U of A.
540
00:34:36,848 --> 00:34:40,054
Dropped out my junior year.
541
00:34:40,056 --> 00:34:42,513
Went west with a friend.
542
00:34:42,515 --> 00:34:44,471
We got in with some people.
543
00:34:44,473 --> 00:34:46,973
I was in this scene, San Francisco.
544
00:34:48,806 --> 00:34:53,640
Anti-war, kind of fringe Panther stuff.
545
00:34:54,931 --> 00:34:58,138
Some things happened, not good.
546
00:34:58,140 --> 00:35:01,388
And then I was alone.
547
00:35:01,390 --> 00:35:05,806
'74, I came back home, got my degree.
548
00:35:10,931 --> 00:35:12,931
I grew up in Conway.
549
00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:15,806
My mom worked on a farm.
550
00:35:17,140 --> 00:35:19,971
I spent two years in the jungle,
551
00:35:19,973 --> 00:35:21,973
a lot of it I was alone.
552
00:35:23,682 --> 00:35:27,098
I hunt a lot now. Alone.
553
00:35:28,432 --> 00:35:31,121
I'm a vegetarian.
554
00:35:31,124 --> 00:35:33,346
That's a real shame.
555
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:36,473
If you're a Democrat, don't tell me.
556
00:35:40,348 --> 00:35:42,223
You like teachin'?
557
00:35:43,515 --> 00:35:45,515
Sometimes.
558
00:35:46,682 --> 00:35:49,846
I want to be a writer.
559
00:35:49,848 --> 00:35:51,515
Write books.
560
00:35:53,014 --> 00:35:55,471
I don't read enough.
561
00:35:55,473 --> 00:35:58,181
I like Batman and Silver Surfer.
562
00:35:59,682 --> 00:36:04,096
I had this sorta
dyslexic thing growin' up.
563
00:36:04,098 --> 00:36:06,304
Was that hard?
564
00:36:06,306 --> 00:36:08,596
They said I was dumb.
565
00:36:08,598 --> 00:36:11,598
My mom wasn't havin' any of that.
566
00:36:14,432 --> 00:36:18,054
That poem you were
teachin'. I looked it up.
567
00:36:18,056 --> 00:36:21,138
- Oh, yeah?
- I read it.
568
00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:24,348
I'm not ready to talk about
it yet, but I have thoughts.
569
00:36:25,682 --> 00:36:28,557
- Share when you want.
- All right.
570
00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:33,054
You ever been married?
571
00:36:33,056 --> 00:36:34,432
No.
572
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:37,221
You?
573
00:36:37,223 --> 00:36:40,056
I was engaged. Seven months.
574
00:36:41,348 --> 00:36:42,971
I broke it off.
575
00:36:42,973 --> 00:36:45,346
I didn't want to be married, I realized.
576
00:36:45,348 --> 00:36:49,348
- I don't wanna get married.
- No?
577
00:36:51,848 --> 00:36:55,263
Guy the other day said I must be crazy.
578
00:36:55,265 --> 00:37:01,388
Thing is, and I've thought
of this for a while...
579
00:37:01,390 --> 00:37:04,263
I think I might be.
580
00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:06,098
Like how?
581
00:37:11,265 --> 00:37:13,762
I wear clip-on ties
'cause I'm preoccupied
582
00:37:13,764 --> 00:37:16,263
with this idea of getting
strangled with one.
583
00:37:19,348 --> 00:37:21,265
Is that too much?
584
00:37:24,306 --> 00:37:26,929
This year, twice,
585
00:37:26,931 --> 00:37:28,929
I've been to St. Louis
586
00:37:28,931 --> 00:37:31,263
and I've stayed at this hotel,
587
00:37:31,265 --> 00:37:33,929
and I've pretended I'm someone else.
588
00:37:33,931 --> 00:37:38,555
I go out, meet new people,
and I am someone else.
589
00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:43,138
Different name, different
background, different job.
590
00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:44,635
Twice.
591
00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:49,182
Hmm.
592
00:37:52,973 --> 00:37:56,138
You drink too much?
593
00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:58,638
I don't know.
594
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,181
I might get drunk twice a month.
595
00:38:02,764 --> 00:38:05,346
Three times.
596
00:38:05,348 --> 00:38:08,471
I like to laugh, is the thing.
597
00:38:10,265 --> 00:38:13,721
Hey. Raise it up?
598
00:38:13,723 --> 00:38:17,762
Hurry. Quick.
599
00:38:17,764 --> 00:38:20,762
...information in
the Purcell murder-kidnapping,
600
00:38:20,764 --> 00:38:22,555
we go to the Washington
County courthouse
601
00:38:22,558 --> 00:38:25,012
- earlier this afternoon.
- Don't do it.
602
00:38:25,014 --> 00:38:26,884
We believe the missing girl,
603
00:38:26,887 --> 00:38:29,846
Julie Purcell, was
contacted by her abductor
604
00:38:29,848 --> 00:38:32,574
while she participated
in Halloween last week.
605
00:38:32,577 --> 00:38:35,034
We're sharing a graphic
606
00:38:35,035 --> 00:38:38,348
of the area where she and her
brother went trick-or-treating.
607
00:38:38,351 --> 00:38:40,230
Now, our investigation suggests
608
00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:42,179
that someone who saw her on Halloween
609
00:38:42,181 --> 00:38:44,220
has special knowledge of this case.
610
00:38:44,223 --> 00:38:47,471
- Givin' it away.
- Anyone who saw anything suspicious...
611
00:38:47,473 --> 00:38:50,637
- What's wrong?
- I'm sorry, I...
612
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,277
I gotta go. Goddamnit.
613
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,929
Are you saying the
children knew their kidnapper?
614
00:38:55,931 --> 00:38:59,754
I'm not at liberty
to reveal that at this time.
615
00:39:03,223 --> 00:39:06,096
I knew they
wouldn't listen to me.
616
00:39:06,098 --> 00:39:08,721
But you shoulda stopped that.
617
00:39:08,723 --> 00:39:12,430
Me? What am I supposed to do?
618
00:39:12,432 --> 00:39:14,054
You were there.
619
00:39:14,056 --> 00:39:17,430
I'm sayin', I talk,
it don't mean anything.
620
00:39:17,432 --> 00:39:19,804
Don't matter if I'm right.
621
00:39:19,806 --> 00:39:22,804
You, at least, you talk,
it means somethin' to 'em.
622
00:39:22,806 --> 00:39:24,388
Might consider what you're saying.
623
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:25,846
You mighta stopped 'em from doing that.
624
00:39:25,848 --> 00:39:29,038
Bullshit. Who knew
until it was on the TV?
625
00:39:29,041 --> 00:39:30,555
Why didn't you stop 'em?
626
00:39:30,557 --> 00:39:34,012
They ain't my tribe, man.
Take care of your shit.
627
00:39:34,014 --> 00:39:36,762
Tribe? Where you think you are, asshole?
628
00:39:36,764 --> 00:39:38,549
- I know where I am.
- Do ya?
629
00:39:38,552 --> 00:39:40,205
It don't sound like it.
630
00:39:40,208 --> 00:39:43,430
Son, I know where I am in a
way you will never understand.
631
00:39:43,432 --> 00:39:45,179
Are you high, Purple Hays?
632
00:39:45,181 --> 00:39:47,430
'Cause you're makin'
about as much goddamn sense
633
00:39:47,432 --> 00:39:49,012
as my grandmother's dementia.
634
00:39:49,014 --> 00:39:50,555
No, I'm sayin' I know where I am.
635
00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:52,390
Hey, good for you.
636
00:40:20,265 --> 00:40:22,598
Was all I could think of.
637
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:26,848
You got somethin' else?
638
00:40:28,848 --> 00:40:32,680
Vice gave me a dude near
Fort Smith to look at.
639
00:40:32,682 --> 00:40:34,473
I pulled his file.
640
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,494
What is it?
641
00:40:42,931 --> 00:40:45,306
You can read for yourself.
642
00:40:57,140 --> 00:40:59,306
You wanna go get him?
643
00:41:02,056 --> 00:41:04,181
I wanna go get him.
644
00:41:05,598 --> 00:41:08,887
We might as well keep watch out here.
645
00:41:08,889 --> 00:41:11,588
Check the guy out in the mornin'.
646
00:41:11,591 --> 00:41:13,425
Toss his place first.
647
00:41:21,723 --> 00:41:23,557
We should get bennies.
648
00:41:25,889 --> 00:41:28,056
Stayin' up all night.
649
00:41:29,889 --> 00:41:32,848
Glove box. Red-and-blue ones.
650
00:41:35,889 --> 00:41:38,638
Prosecutin' attorney decided...
651
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,929
best thing was to take our single clue
652
00:41:41,932 --> 00:41:44,224
and spread it all over the town.
653
00:41:46,098 --> 00:41:49,596
And that got us a few hundred
false tips the first couple of days.
654
00:41:49,598 --> 00:41:52,846
That's when it all
started with the town.
655
00:41:52,848 --> 00:41:54,223
Just panic.
656
00:41:59,848 --> 00:42:03,931
Lived in
their imaginations now, you see?
657
00:42:22,306 --> 00:42:24,887
Everybody was scared.
658
00:42:24,904 --> 00:42:26,988
That included us.
659
00:42:44,973 --> 00:42:46,223
Hi.
660
00:42:47,592 --> 00:42:49,508
Mornin'.
661
00:42:49,511 --> 00:42:52,887
♪ And I'll never make you sad again ♪
662
00:42:52,889 --> 00:42:56,138
♪ 'Cause I swear... ♪
663
00:42:56,140 --> 00:42:57,762
You gonna eat?
664
00:42:57,764 --> 00:43:00,973
♪ And I'll never make you sorry... ♪
665
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,673
Me neither.
666
00:43:06,306 --> 00:43:08,848
We need you to come with us, sir.
667
00:43:11,306 --> 00:43:12,796
Uh, wha... what's the...
668
00:43:12,799 --> 00:43:15,471
We'll tell ya on the way.
669
00:43:15,473 --> 00:43:19,513
No! Please!
670
00:43:19,515 --> 00:43:22,304
No, it's not me, I swear to God!
671
00:43:22,306 --> 00:43:24,012
You're wrong about this.
672
00:43:24,014 --> 00:43:26,138
You shouldn't have brought me here.
673
00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:28,471
This get you off, mister, huh?
674
00:43:28,473 --> 00:43:31,348
You entertain fantasies of
strappin' white men to posts?
675
00:43:32,889 --> 00:43:35,306
- Now and then, yeah.
- Really?
676
00:43:36,431 --> 00:43:38,554
Uhh!
677
00:43:38,557 --> 00:43:40,555
Talk about your fantasies.
678
00:43:40,557 --> 00:43:42,299
Then he'll tell ya his.
679
00:43:42,302 --> 00:43:45,095
Theodore LaGrange.
680
00:43:45,098 --> 00:43:47,346
It's Ted, yeah?
681
00:43:47,348 --> 00:43:49,557
Ted, you been out a bit over two years.
682
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,829
I know what you're doing,
and I haven't done anything.
683
00:43:52,832 --> 00:43:54,538
Released from Wrightsville.
684
00:43:54,541 --> 00:43:57,179
You got Little Rock up the road.
685
00:43:57,181 --> 00:43:59,682
Why'd you come way out here, Ted?
686
00:44:01,390 --> 00:44:04,179
And why you callin'
yourself Robert Hebert?
687
00:44:04,181 --> 00:44:06,971
I-I wanted a new start.
688
00:44:06,973 --> 00:44:09,682
They keep you in protective
custody in Wrightsville?
689
00:44:11,173 --> 00:44:13,090
Hmm. Figured.
690
00:44:14,265 --> 00:44:16,596
Guys who mess with kids,
691
00:44:16,598 --> 00:44:19,346
they don't usually make it
out with all their parts.
692
00:44:19,348 --> 00:44:21,430
Tell me how you mess with kids.
693
00:44:21,432 --> 00:44:23,388
The boy and the girl.
694
00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:26,221
Your landlady said you didn't
come home last Friday night.
695
00:44:26,224 --> 00:44:27,697
- What?
- The 7th.
696
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,861
That's not... I was
out. I-I was just out.
697
00:44:30,864 --> 00:44:33,695
Help me understand what it
was like for you in the moment.
698
00:44:33,698 --> 00:44:36,346
Let me feel your side of it. Okay?
699
00:44:36,348 --> 00:44:38,762
Tell me why you killed the boy.
700
00:44:38,764 --> 00:44:42,263
I didn't! I never seen him
before he was on the news.
701
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,390
You'll wanna explain to me
where you were that night.
702
00:44:51,432 --> 00:44:55,388
Help me see your side of things.
703
00:44:55,390 --> 00:44:58,096
What'd you do on Halloween
night? Where were you?
704
00:45:01,806 --> 00:45:04,138
Well...
705
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:07,555
we're here to listen
when you want to share.
706
00:45:07,557 --> 00:45:11,346
Aaaaah!
707
00:45:33,221 --> 00:45:34,430
Yes.
708
00:45:34,432 --> 00:45:36,304
He's here Mondays and Fridays.
709
00:45:36,306 --> 00:45:38,846
We do storytime twice
a week in the evenin's,
710
00:45:38,848 --> 00:45:40,430
and he plays guitar for it.
711
00:45:40,432 --> 00:45:44,096
But his name's Robert
Hebert, not what you said.
712
00:45:44,098 --> 00:45:46,263
And he worked on the 7th? Last Friday?
713
00:45:46,265 --> 00:45:47,513
Yes. Mm-hmm.
714
00:45:47,515 --> 00:45:49,388
You know what time he left that night?
715
00:45:49,390 --> 00:45:51,430
Probably about 8:00 or after.
716
00:45:51,432 --> 00:45:55,012
He helped us put up
the tables and chairs.
717
00:45:55,014 --> 00:45:56,596
Did he do something?
718
00:45:56,598 --> 00:45:59,806
You're not gonna see this guy anymore.
719
00:46:01,272 --> 00:46:03,272
If you do, give us a call, okay?
720
00:46:09,014 --> 00:46:11,221
Robbery was a couple of months ago.
721
00:46:11,223 --> 00:46:14,304
All I know for sure is
that her prints showed up.
722
00:46:14,306 --> 00:46:16,179
It's like you said...
723
00:46:16,181 --> 00:46:18,430
They don't know if she was a customer
724
00:46:18,432 --> 00:46:20,388
or part of the break-in.
725
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:22,721
Was it a partial or a full?
726
00:46:22,723 --> 00:46:23,973
Full.
727
00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:26,515
It was her.
728
00:46:28,682 --> 00:46:30,330
They had video surveillance?
729
00:46:30,333 --> 00:46:32,596
They smashed the camera in the pharmacy.
730
00:46:32,598 --> 00:46:34,971
Store's got footage goin'
back three days prior.
731
00:46:34,973 --> 00:46:37,721
We subpoenaed it, but we have to wait.
732
00:46:37,723 --> 00:46:40,346
Somebody watchin' the store
in case she comes back?
733
00:46:40,348 --> 00:46:44,012
My understandin', Sallisaw
PD's focused on the robbery.
734
00:46:44,014 --> 00:46:46,024
And I wouldn't say the locals are a
735
00:46:46,025 --> 00:46:49,095
crackerjack investigative
team or anything.
736
00:46:49,098 --> 00:46:50,762
So nothin'.
737
00:46:50,764 --> 00:46:52,804
Man's family didn't have the resources
738
00:46:52,806 --> 00:46:54,181
for an investigator...
739
00:46:55,515 --> 00:46:58,056
but obviously, we'd like to find her.
740
00:47:04,265 --> 00:47:07,471
What about Arkansas PD?
They lookin' for her?
741
00:47:07,473 --> 00:47:09,338
There's nobody on the case yet.
742
00:47:09,341 --> 00:47:11,283
Kindt's office will have to look at it
743
00:47:11,286 --> 00:47:13,637
since they'll be defending
our motion to overturn,
744
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,138
but right now, no.
745
00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:18,346
I don't think so.
746
00:47:18,348 --> 00:47:21,390
You all right goin' up
against your old boss?
747
00:47:22,931 --> 00:47:24,889
It's overdue.
748
00:47:37,473 --> 00:47:38,887
Talk to Roland?
749
00:47:38,889 --> 00:47:41,098
We have an appointment.
750
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:44,348
He's done well.
751
00:47:45,889 --> 00:47:47,390
He has.
752
00:48:07,597 --> 00:48:09,720
You wanna execute him?
753
00:48:09,723 --> 00:48:12,430
We can bury him right out
here, I don't give a shit.
754
00:48:12,432 --> 00:48:16,221
Throw him off a
bridge... Nobody'll care.
755
00:48:16,223 --> 00:48:19,721
Put him in holding, get his parole violated.
756
00:48:19,723 --> 00:48:21,638
He'll be back in Wrightsville tomorrow.
757
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,471
- Full sentence.
- If you say so.
758
00:48:25,473 --> 00:48:27,346
Talk shit about us...
759
00:48:27,348 --> 00:48:30,346
I'll have monstrous niggers
fuck him to death in his cell.
760
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,879
D'you hear me, boy? You
will bleed black cock.
761
00:48:39,723 --> 00:48:43,473
Gotta catch up, man. Just
spent the day on this bullshit.
762
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,004
That was a vivid description
of prison rape. Jesus.
763
00:48:53,014 --> 00:48:55,138
Could tell he had the racial thing.
764
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:57,179
Remember what he said in the barn?
765
00:48:57,181 --> 00:48:59,973
Still... it's gonna haunt me.
766
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,181
D-12, do you copy?
767
00:49:10,973 --> 00:49:12,762
Copy, dispatch.
768
00:49:12,764 --> 00:49:15,764
Lieutenant Twiggs wants
y'all at the Purcell place.
769
00:49:17,723 --> 00:49:19,138
What's up?
770
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:21,682
Someone said the family got a note.
771
00:49:25,598 --> 00:49:27,848
Copy. On the way.
772
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,723
- Hey, Dad.
- Hi.
773
00:50:04,056 --> 00:50:06,468
_
774
00:50:09,921 --> 00:50:11,887
Hey. Hey!
775
00:50:11,889 --> 00:50:14,346
Did you see? They sent me the galleys.
776
00:50:14,348 --> 00:50:15,723
That's great.
777
00:50:17,223 --> 00:50:19,557
You got a little loose after work?
778
00:50:20,973 --> 00:50:22,858
How was the deposition?
779
00:50:22,861 --> 00:50:24,153
It was fine.
780
00:50:33,189 --> 00:50:35,565
It's as much about us as anything.
781
00:50:37,515 --> 00:50:40,762
And I think her and me, it was as close
782
00:50:40,765 --> 00:50:43,598
as she could give the
thing a happy ending.
783
00:50:45,973 --> 00:50:48,096
After the events of 1990,
784
00:50:48,098 --> 00:50:51,471
and what happened with
Julie and her father,
785
00:50:51,473 --> 00:50:53,804
you left the PD.
786
00:50:53,806 --> 00:50:56,596
Did you believe that concluded the case?
787
00:50:56,598 --> 00:51:00,555
Did you feel the investigation
ended too abruptly?
788
00:51:00,565 --> 00:51:03,772
She wrote six novels
after. This was her first.
789
00:51:05,014 --> 00:51:08,929
Uh, very... to a cop,
790
00:51:08,931 --> 00:51:11,680
very impressive eye for detail.
791
00:51:11,682 --> 00:51:13,346
Have you read it?
792
00:51:13,348 --> 00:51:16,452
Mr. Hays, did you have
theories after what happened
793
00:51:16,455 --> 00:51:18,897
with Julie Purcell
and her father in '90?
794
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,538
Theories that weren't in line
795
00:51:20,541 --> 00:51:22,122
with your superior's directives?
796
00:51:22,125 --> 00:51:24,220
I heard what you asked.
797
00:51:24,223 --> 00:51:27,430
The answer is...
798
00:51:27,432 --> 00:51:31,014
I never stopped coming up
with theories about that case.
799
00:51:32,140 --> 00:51:34,430
And I hit Todd and Dave into home,
800
00:51:34,432 --> 00:51:36,390
and when I went over, we won.
801
00:51:36,393 --> 00:51:38,886
Coach saw, and came and
talked to me about baseball
802
00:51:38,889 --> 00:51:40,682
when I get older.
803
00:51:44,682 --> 00:51:47,277
- That's fantastic, Henry.
- Mm-hmm.
804
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,975
You're gonna be very athletic.
805
00:51:48,978 --> 00:51:50,142
You already are.
806
00:52:03,723 --> 00:52:06,638
The publisher said we can issue
an update for the paperback
807
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,263
once this appeal goes to trial.
808
00:52:09,265 --> 00:52:10,640
Yeah?
809
00:52:14,889 --> 00:52:17,887
You're a bit out of it tonight.
810
00:52:17,889 --> 00:52:19,346
The kids noticed.
811
00:52:19,348 --> 00:52:21,973
You can't be that way in front of them.
812
00:52:23,348 --> 00:52:25,640
- I'm not drunk.
- What's going on?
813
00:52:27,423 --> 00:52:29,714
What happened with the deposition?
814
00:52:31,181 --> 00:52:33,640
They overturning the conviction?
815
00:52:36,848 --> 00:52:39,181
Julie Purcell is alive.
816
00:52:51,889 --> 00:52:55,054
Thought for sure you'd all beat us here.
817
00:52:55,056 --> 00:52:57,221
What is that, huh?
818
00:52:57,223 --> 00:52:58,721
What's that mean?
819
00:53:03,903 --> 00:53:11,280
_
820
00:53:13,816 --> 00:53:16,148
Well, what's it mean?
821
00:53:16,151 --> 00:53:17,900
Hmm?
822
00:53:29,723 --> 00:53:32,764
You want more chicken, Wayne?
823
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:40,596
Thanks for the spread, Heather.
824
00:53:40,598 --> 00:53:42,513
This is wonderful.
825
00:53:42,515 --> 00:53:44,471
Are you feelin' all right?
826
00:53:44,473 --> 00:53:46,012
Uh...
827
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:48,100
He's been goin' back through that case.
828
00:53:48,103 --> 00:53:49,353
Mom's book.
829
00:53:50,931 --> 00:53:53,430
I never read the whole thing.
830
00:53:53,432 --> 00:53:56,265
Couldn't stand I was in it so much.
831
00:53:58,348 --> 00:54:00,596
Goin' back over the story, it's good...
832
00:54:00,598 --> 00:54:03,096
Makin' me work my brain, I mean.
833
00:54:03,098 --> 00:54:05,140
Leadin' me to other stuff.
834
00:54:09,223 --> 00:54:12,638
Maybe you guys could see
about gettin' Rebecca out here.
835
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,806
I'd like to see her.
836
00:54:17,306 --> 00:54:19,471
She's in L.A., Dad.
837
00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:21,638
When did that happen?
838
00:54:21,641 --> 00:54:23,780
What's she doin' out there?
839
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:26,817
She's playin' music, Wayne.
840
00:54:30,682 --> 00:54:32,304
She okay? You talk to her?
841
00:54:32,306 --> 00:54:34,806
I talked to her a few weeks ago.
842
00:54:36,931 --> 00:54:39,179
Think she'd come back home for a visit?
843
00:54:39,181 --> 00:54:42,179
She don't like it here, Dad.
844
00:54:42,181 --> 00:54:43,788
Why not?
845
00:54:45,557 --> 00:54:47,555
I just don't think it suits her.
846
00:54:47,557 --> 00:54:50,513
- She never liked it.
- She didn't?
847
00:54:50,515 --> 00:54:53,513
Hey!
848
00:54:53,515 --> 00:54:55,887
One more time, okay?
849
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,762
Shh. Eat.
850
00:54:59,764 --> 00:55:03,390
It's goin' by pretty quick.
851
00:55:05,181 --> 00:55:07,181
Don't I know it.
852
00:55:10,682 --> 00:55:14,138
Maybe you guys could see
about gettin' Rebecca out here.
853
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:16,181
I'd like to see her.
854
00:56:26,037 --> 00:56:30,913
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