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Could you tell us about
November 7th, 1980?
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I remember everything.
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Will and Julie went riding
their bikes around 4:00.
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Supposed to go by a friend's
house, kid says he never saw 'em.
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What did you do?
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You're their mother, where were you?
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I am entitled to a life!
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How long have you folks
been sleeping separate?
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Dan left last May,
then I took the couch.
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- Dan?
- My cousin.
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You're having memory problems, right?
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What?
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You have memory problems.
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Henry's coming with
the people from the TV.
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So, you caught the case back in '80?
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Didn't work again 'til 90.
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And your wife's book
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was considered a classic
of literary non-fiction.
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I teach English. Will's
a student of mine.
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There's a few of the older boys.
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They make it hard on the others.
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Last name is Woodard,
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saw him riding around when
I was looking for the kids.
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What's your partner doing?
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Man was a long-range
reconnaissance in 'Nam.
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I found the boy. There's
no sign of the girl.
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Two months ago, the burglary
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and only one set of prints.
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Julie Purcell.
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She's alive?
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You have the autopsy report.
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I don't need to go over that.
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Blunt force trauma...
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and a cervical fracture.
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Somebody broke his neck.
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Brought him to that cave.
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Folded his hands, I guess.
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Alan.
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Talk to me about
Oklahoma. You have to, man.
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Wayne, this isn't the time...
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How many sets of prints were taken?
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Do they know she was one of
the robbers and not a customer?
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If they found her, you wouldn't
even be talkin' to me, right?
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Do they have video surveillance?
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Mr. Hays, the purpose of this deposition
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is to give your statement,
not to extract one from us.
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I'm pretty easygoin',
but go away already.
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I don't think I will.
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Look, we're not at
liberty to divulge details
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of an ongoing police investigation,
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nor to share discovery items with anyone
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other than the prosecutor's office.
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Now, you can talk to them,
if they'll talk to you...
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All right, stop.
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Wayne.
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Finish up today, all right?
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Then after, we'll speak.
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I'm sayin'...
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we'll talk. Okay?
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Now, you were sayin'.
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You questioned people during this time.
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- Right?
- Do you know another way to do it?
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The father worked at Wilson Body Works,
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where they used to make
parts for school buses.
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We talked to everybody there.
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Employed about a hundred
people from West Finger.
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The dolls were their own thing.
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Wasn't gettin' us anywhere, either.
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Thank you very much.
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That guy collected garbage, Woodard.
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We talked to him too.
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I saw the kids. They were
pedaling into the sun.
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Headed west?
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We went by your place.
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You sorta collect things, huh?
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I salvage trash that I can sell.
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You don't need to make
it sound better than that.
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You got any other properties?
Anywhere you keep things?
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I don't have anyplace else.
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What'd you do before this?
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Before you collected scrap.
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Uh, came back from overseas. '72.
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Did some carpentry.
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Construction dropped off.
Things didn't work out.
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My marriage. Stuff.
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I was gone too long.
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About four years ago she left me.
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Took the kids.
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I was motor pool.
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My man here was a LRRP. Two tours.
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Detective Hays. They called
him Purple Hays over there.
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You miss your family?
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I... Yeah.
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I miss being someone that way...
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a way I could have a family.
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You were recon?
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Seventy-fifth Infantry.
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Sergeant.
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You must be pretty insane.
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Volunteerin' for that.
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I didn't think about it
much, tell ya the truth.
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I ain't one of them burnouts.
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Ya know, comes back bustin'
guys up, gettin' high.
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And I ain't a bum.
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I keep a house. I pay my way!
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Hey. I ain't judgin', man.
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Look, I punch in and out.
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I put on a suit in the mornin'.
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And bein' honest...
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I don't have much of a life.
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So why?
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Why punch in?
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Why the suit? Why...
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I don't ask myself questions like that.
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Could be I'm too
chickenshit, Mr. Woodard.
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It ain't my world.
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Less than yours, even.
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But I did pretty good
at following orders.
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Now...
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You ever do this?
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I miss when "Don't get killed"
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was the only thing on my to-do list.
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It's hard to unplug from that.
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I spent a year comin' down.
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Just to go back over it, you
sure you didn't see anything?
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I told you.
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I saw the teenagers out there, too.
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I was goin' in the other direction.
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You like kids, generally?
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Do...
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What the fuck's the
right answer to that?
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You think I...
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Listen, I got two kids, okay?
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Where are they?
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I don't know.
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She didn't tell me.
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And I haven't gone lookin'.
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If I'd never left...
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I think it'd have been fine.
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But to go, and come back...
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I just couldn't put myself back
in that old story, that's all.
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And I couldn't leave
it, either. Ya know?
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You ever been someplace
you couldn't leave,
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and you couldn't stay...
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both at the same time?
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Do you remember the place?
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I remember.
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I can tell you all that
none of us will rest
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until we achieve justice in the matter.
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Our detectives are hard at work,
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and this is priority
one for law enforcement
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in Washington County
and Northwest Arkansas.
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Now, it's temporary,
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but we're gonna have to have
a curfew for a little while.
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It's important that we keep
an eye on our kids right now,
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and we want to make sure you
know where they are at all times,
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and that they're indoors by 8:00.
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Now, we can't really say too
much about the investigation,
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but I'm here to answer
any questions I can.
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Well, I don't let mine
go near Devil's Den.
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Everybody knows you got
something happenin' in it.
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Bums, junkies.
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Queers meet up out there.
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You have a question, sir?
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I wanna know what y'all are
doing to break up that stuff.
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Clean up that park!
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What about these junkies?
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You got heroin in Arkansas now.
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Right now our focus is tryin'
to find this little girl
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and bring her home.
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We're considering every possibility.
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And what about that fella
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always diggin' through
everybody's trash?
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Mr. Kindt, can you tell us
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if they think the girl is still alive?
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It's our hope that she's alive, yes.
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But again, I really can't discuss any
of the details of the investigation.
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Now, our detectives have a
pair of Xeroxes to pass out.
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One is a picture of Julie Purcell.
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The other is the kind of
backpack that the boy, Will, had.
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It's red and has his name on it.
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Now, if anyone has any
information of potential interest,
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no matter how far afield,
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share it with us.
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And trust that we will not
let this terrible, cowardly act
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go unpunished.
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Your old boss got
real vocal around then.
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Gerald Kindt had an election
comin' up the next year.
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I know. I guess that works to
some point in your petition.
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It's worth notin', I
think, his motivations.
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Well...
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now he's fuckin' State Attorney General.
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But we didn't work for
him. He was your boss.
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Oh, not for a good while now.
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The broken neck is clear.
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But the way the arms were folded...
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- I know.
- And the other thing.
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The hell are those dolls for?
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Correct. Look familiar, some way.
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Like the kind of thing at country fairs.
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What do you get from
that crowd in there?
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They're worried.
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Could be thinkin' it
coulda been a neighbor.
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Had 'em sign in. Saw some
shifty eyes in there, but...
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may be my redneck radar.
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I don't know.
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Excuse me.
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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You found him, didn't you?
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You look like you haven't
slept in a couple days.
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Work to do. How's it at school?
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Sad.
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People are scared.
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Well...
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been askin' about this.
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We haven't gotten anything.
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I don't know, you
knowin' the kids and such.
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You ever seen anything like this?
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Seen a kid with a doll like this?
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Uh, maybe. I don't know.
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Looks like something you'd find
in a craft store or something.
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I... I haven't seen any
of the kids with them.
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Can I keep this?
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Uh, sure.
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I'll ask around with the kids,
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maybe check with the other teachers.
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All right. Thanks.
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Uh...
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Amelia.
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- Okay, I gotta go.
- All right.
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Be safe.
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Now, this family...
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Haven't we spent
enough time with this?
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It's helpin' me.
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Bringin' things back.
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How's that?
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Your mother.
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I, uh...
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I have trouble seein' her sometimes.
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Or, uh... I know who she is,
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but the parts of our lives, pieces...
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I can't picture 'em.
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You think Mom wants
you to keep doin' this?
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It's bringin' things
back. Goin' over the case.
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I'm rememberin' things.
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My life. Your sister.
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You know when the last
time I saw Rebecca?
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Mom's funeral?
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I think you talked on the
phone a few months back.
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You sure you wanna keep
talkin' to the TV people?
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That woman, the director...
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I wanna know what she's after.
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What they might know now.
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She said she'd, uh, show
me somethin' next time.
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She's baitin' ya, Dad.
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Do you think she cares at
all about you or who did it?
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She just wants people
to watch her shitty show.
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And I think...
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Mom would want you to move on.
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Enjoy the family you have around you.
262
00:16:17,099 --> 00:16:19,514
Well...
263
00:16:19,516 --> 00:16:23,756
she and I always had different
ideas. I remember that.
264
00:16:30,016 --> 00:16:32,764
Wayne. Roland.
265
00:16:32,766 --> 00:16:36,097
Special Agents Burt
Diller and John Bowen.
266
00:16:36,099 --> 00:16:38,764
Thanks, Detective, we'll
get these back ASAP.
267
00:16:38,766 --> 00:16:40,431
Want you to know we have no intention
268
00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:43,201
of impeding or usurping
your investigation.
269
00:16:43,204 --> 00:16:45,147
This is a Task Force.
270
00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:47,597
One unit with a common goal.
271
00:16:47,599 --> 00:16:49,597
Feds are gonna take the
lead with the kidnappin'.
272
00:16:49,599 --> 00:16:52,268
You two are still point
on the death investigation.
273
00:16:52,271 --> 00:16:55,019
Both of which will hopefully
lead to the same solution.
274
00:16:55,022 --> 00:16:56,586
Everybody shares everything.
275
00:16:56,587 --> 00:16:59,222
We'll be doing debriefs
first thing every mornin'.
276
00:16:59,224 --> 00:17:00,745
Everybody turns in dailies.
277
00:17:00,748 --> 00:17:02,701
How you guys wanna go forward?
278
00:17:02,704 --> 00:17:05,398
We got a multi-state
APB out on the girl.
279
00:17:05,401 --> 00:17:08,193
Checkpoints along state
lines. Agents advised.
280
00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:13,850
Let us get caught up.
We'll figure our next move.
281
00:17:14,853 --> 00:17:16,555
Time?
282
00:17:16,558 --> 00:17:18,681
You two have somewhere to be?
283
00:17:18,683 --> 00:17:20,975
We got a funeral to get to.
284
00:17:44,641 --> 00:17:47,973
I know we spoke on the phone, but...
285
00:17:47,975 --> 00:17:50,347
want to touch base
on a couple of things.
286
00:17:50,349 --> 00:17:52,514
What's that?
287
00:17:52,516 --> 00:17:55,055
I haven't been out here since last May.
288
00:17:55,057 --> 00:17:57,305
You stayed in the boy,
Will's, room, right?
289
00:17:57,307 --> 00:17:59,139
Yeah. Told you I did.
290
00:17:59,141 --> 00:18:01,597
You leave a couple magazines behind?
291
00:18:01,599 --> 00:18:03,123
Under the mattress?
292
00:18:03,126 --> 00:18:06,930
Ohh, damn. Yeah, maybe I did.
293
00:18:06,933 --> 00:18:08,723
Should I, uh...
294
00:18:08,725 --> 00:18:11,514
- Never mind.
- You recall anything
295
00:18:11,516 --> 00:18:13,222
from the time you spent in the house
296
00:18:13,224 --> 00:18:14,973
might be worth mentioning?
297
00:18:14,975 --> 00:18:17,681
Like you ever see anybody
talkin' to the kids?
298
00:18:17,683 --> 00:18:19,973
Any adults you didn't recognize?
299
00:18:19,975 --> 00:18:24,180
Nah. Nah, can't say I
recall anything like that.
300
00:18:24,182 --> 00:18:27,097
Them kids, they kept
to themselves a lot.
301
00:18:27,099 --> 00:18:29,806
The house was a pretty tense place.
302
00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:33,055
You can probably tell, Lucy
and Tom aren't real happy.
303
00:18:33,057 --> 00:18:35,014
Before any of this.
304
00:18:35,016 --> 00:18:38,873
Will and Julie, they play
outside the house a lot?
305
00:18:38,876 --> 00:18:42,389
Yeah. I think so. I don't think
they liked being around there.
306
00:18:42,391 --> 00:18:46,472
You know, Mom and Dad
angry all the time.
307
00:18:53,307 --> 00:18:55,556
Were you pretty close to Will and Julie?
308
00:18:55,558 --> 00:18:58,681
I don't know. We got along.
309
00:18:58,683 --> 00:19:01,723
I played with them a couple times.
310
00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:04,431
They didn't see me much
before I stayed here.
311
00:19:04,433 --> 00:19:06,139
But they were good kids.
312
00:19:06,141 --> 00:19:08,349
What do you think of Tom?
313
00:19:11,057 --> 00:19:13,597
He's an all right guy.
314
00:19:13,599 --> 00:19:15,694
I feel sorry for him.
315
00:19:15,697 --> 00:19:18,113
I felt for him even before all this.
316
00:19:20,099 --> 00:19:22,097
I mean, in my opinion,
317
00:19:22,099 --> 00:19:24,766
Lucy always needed, like, a strong male.
318
00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:30,014
You stayin' in town long?
319
00:19:30,016 --> 00:19:32,264
Nah, I gotta get back to work.
320
00:19:32,266 --> 00:19:35,097
Family could probably use you around.
321
00:19:35,099 --> 00:19:36,764
I can't get the time off.
322
00:19:36,766 --> 00:19:39,764
It's not like there's
a lot I can do for 'em.
323
00:19:39,766 --> 00:19:41,389
And the night of?
324
00:19:41,391 --> 00:19:44,099
Your neighbor can
confirm you were at home?
325
00:19:47,683 --> 00:19:49,639
I don't know if they can or not.
326
00:19:49,641 --> 00:19:52,431
But you could check with the
Starlight Bar in Springfield.
327
00:19:52,433 --> 00:19:55,014
I had a couple there after
work, and then I went home
328
00:19:55,016 --> 00:19:57,305
and watched CHiPs.
329
00:19:57,307 --> 00:19:59,723
You wanna search my place?
330
00:19:59,725 --> 00:20:01,498
Would that be okay?
331
00:20:02,877 --> 00:20:04,252
Sure.
332
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,096
But maybe...
333
00:20:07,099 --> 00:20:09,850
you should be out there
tryin' to find my niece.
334
00:20:13,266 --> 00:20:15,349
I'm gonna get back to Lucy.
335
00:20:21,474 --> 00:20:24,180
Like we said over the phone,
336
00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:28,472
we hadn't seen or talked with
the kids since last Christmas.
337
00:20:28,474 --> 00:20:31,266
Nearly a year ago.
338
00:20:32,641 --> 00:20:34,180
She doesn't like us.
339
00:20:34,182 --> 00:20:35,723
That's Lucy, you mean?
340
00:20:35,725 --> 00:20:38,092
'Loise, let's don't, now.
341
00:20:38,095 --> 00:20:39,760
Why not now?
342
00:20:39,763 --> 00:20:43,221
Why not just say it?
The children are lost.
343
00:20:43,224 --> 00:20:45,472
Yes, I mean Lucy.
344
00:20:45,474 --> 00:20:47,597
She runs around on Tom, you know.
345
00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:49,931
Every marriage has its own story.
346
00:20:49,933 --> 00:20:52,264
Nobody knows except the two involved.
347
00:20:52,266 --> 00:20:54,558
Bull. She was a terrible...
348
00:20:55,641 --> 00:20:57,347
You know,
349
00:20:57,349 --> 00:21:00,681
there's been some wonderin' about Julie.
350
00:21:00,683 --> 00:21:02,264
Don't. Not today.
351
00:21:02,266 --> 00:21:03,848
Tom was workin' offshore.
352
00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:06,753
Could have been weldin' in
Texas when Julie was conceived.
353
00:21:06,756 --> 00:21:10,347
- Now, I've wondered...
- Goddamnit!!!
354
00:21:10,349 --> 00:21:13,808
Not today, Eloise. Not today.
355
00:21:16,766 --> 00:21:19,057
Hey.
356
00:21:21,057 --> 00:21:24,391
Why don't the two of y'all
get out of my house for today?
357
00:21:26,255 --> 00:21:27,922
Mom, Dad.
358
00:21:44,224 --> 00:21:46,556
Yes, I got it now.
359
00:21:46,558 --> 00:21:48,222
There's a web forum that posts
360
00:21:48,224 --> 00:21:49,764
about real-life criminal cases,
361
00:21:49,766 --> 00:21:52,556
things that are unsolved or unresolved.
362
00:21:52,558 --> 00:21:55,182
They have a whole section
on the Purcell case.
363
00:21:59,558 --> 00:22:02,057
This is what people do now?
364
00:22:03,683 --> 00:22:06,431
They go in lots of directions.
365
00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:08,431
Did you know at various times since,
366
00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:11,014
large-scale pedophile rings
connected to people of influence
367
00:22:11,016 --> 00:22:12,889
were uncovered in the surrounding areas?
368
00:22:12,891 --> 00:22:15,433
Do you know about the Franklin scandal?
369
00:22:16,641 --> 00:22:18,806
No.
370
00:22:18,808 --> 00:22:20,597
It's been theorized that the straw dolls
371
00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:24,431
are a sign of pedophile
groups, like the crooked spiral.
372
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,481
I don't think that's right.
373
00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:34,764
Can I ask, with what happened in
1990 and you leaving the force,
374
00:22:34,766 --> 00:22:36,969
did you ever feel
your leads and theories
375
00:22:36,972 --> 00:22:39,053
were discounted because of your race?
376
00:22:40,224 --> 00:22:43,806
Not particularly, no. Why?
377
00:22:43,808 --> 00:22:46,889
I'm interested in the
intersectionality of marginalized groups
378
00:22:46,891 --> 00:22:50,433
within authoritarian and
systemic racist structures.
379
00:22:56,516 --> 00:22:59,222
Well, anyways, those...
Those dolls from the scene,
380
00:22:59,224 --> 00:23:01,055
they were a significant lead.
381
00:23:01,057 --> 00:23:05,014
Amelia. She's the one
helped us out with that.
382
00:23:05,016 --> 00:23:06,808
Got us that lead.
383
00:23:16,433 --> 00:23:20,014
Have you seen a doll
that looks like this?
384
00:23:20,016 --> 00:23:21,973
- No.
- Not you?
385
00:23:21,975 --> 00:23:24,516
Okay, well, you let me
know if you do, okay?
386
00:23:38,433 --> 00:23:39,973
Mike.
387
00:23:39,975 --> 00:23:42,975
Have you seen this doll before?
388
00:23:44,224 --> 00:23:46,597
H-Halloween.
389
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,014
Somebody was passing them
out at trick-or-treat,
390
00:23:50,016 --> 00:23:51,182
I think.
391
00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:55,681
Julie... she got one.
392
00:23:55,683 --> 00:24:00,639
This Halloween you went
trick-or-treating with her?
393
00:24:00,641 --> 00:24:04,639
We met her and her brother
and... and some other kids.
394
00:24:04,641 --> 00:24:07,725
We live on the next street over.
395
00:24:11,224 --> 00:24:12,766
It's okay.
396
00:24:32,433 --> 00:24:34,055
Tom?
397
00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:36,097
Tom!
398
00:24:36,161 --> 00:24:37,578
Tom!
399
00:24:38,558 --> 00:24:40,389
Hey, what... what...
400
00:24:40,391 --> 00:24:42,264
What ya doin' back up here, brother?
401
00:24:42,266 --> 00:24:43,723
'Talkin' about?
402
00:24:43,725 --> 00:24:46,182
This is my usual shift. Four years.
403
00:24:56,425 --> 00:24:59,925
What's you're fuckin'
problem? My dick showin'?
404
00:25:05,141 --> 00:25:07,055
Hey, Tom.
405
00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:10,097
You sure you wanna
be back at work today?
406
00:25:10,099 --> 00:25:13,891
I been workin' full-time
since I was fourteen years old.
407
00:25:15,683 --> 00:25:19,266
You want me to sit at home
with this shit in my head now?
408
00:25:23,975 --> 00:25:26,848
How long you motherfuckers
gonna stare at me?!
409
00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:30,472
Somebody got something to say about me?!
410
00:25:30,474 --> 00:25:32,431
My family?!
411
00:25:32,433 --> 00:25:34,264
Huh?! Somebody know somethin' I don't...
412
00:25:34,266 --> 00:25:37,264
Tom? Hi.
413
00:25:37,266 --> 00:25:40,597
We didn't plan on havin'
you back this soon.
414
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,848
Well, I gotta earn a livin'.
415
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:46,514
Well, the thing is, we, uh...
416
00:25:46,516 --> 00:25:48,472
we put you on leave.
417
00:25:48,474 --> 00:25:50,055
Well, I didn't ask for that, okay?
418
00:25:50,057 --> 00:25:53,597
Now, I gotta work. You
tellin' me I can't work?
419
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,537
Look, with everything that's happenin',
420
00:25:56,540 --> 00:25:57,975
it's a little disruptive.
421
00:25:59,265 --> 00:26:01,805
People have other things on their mind?
422
00:26:01,808 --> 00:26:03,514
These machines?
423
00:26:03,516 --> 00:26:06,474
That's how accidents
happen. You know that, Tom.
424
00:26:08,349 --> 00:26:10,850
I'm the guy nobody wants to be, huh?
425
00:26:14,558 --> 00:26:16,891
I'm the fuckin' joke, right?
426
00:26:18,057 --> 00:26:20,681
You shouldn't look at it like that.
427
00:26:20,683 --> 00:26:23,891
But you ain't comin' back
to work right now, Tom.
428
00:26:28,349 --> 00:26:31,180
Well, fuck everything, anyway!
429
00:26:31,182 --> 00:26:33,889
Yeah, fuck each of ya!
430
00:26:33,891 --> 00:26:36,182
I quit!
431
00:26:41,174 --> 00:26:43,967
You remember which house
was givin' these out?
432
00:26:45,808 --> 00:26:47,891
Who else got one?
433
00:26:52,341 --> 00:26:54,339
Mike...
434
00:26:54,349 --> 00:26:56,725
did you see her get the doll?
435
00:26:58,391 --> 00:27:00,014
No, ma'am.
436
00:27:00,016 --> 00:27:02,514
When did you see she had it?
437
00:27:02,516 --> 00:27:04,514
It was like at the end.
438
00:27:04,516 --> 00:27:07,055
We were all showing what we got,
439
00:27:07,057 --> 00:27:09,576
and she had the doll in
her trick-or-treat bag.
440
00:27:09,579 --> 00:27:11,368
Did you stay in the neighborhood,
441
00:27:11,371 --> 00:27:13,160
or did you drive somewhere?
442
00:27:13,163 --> 00:27:15,247
We just walked.
443
00:27:17,725 --> 00:27:21,057
Thanks, Mike. You're really helpin'.
444
00:27:22,224 --> 00:27:23,464
Hey.
445
00:27:23,467 --> 00:27:25,514
What'd you go as for Halloween?
446
00:27:25,516 --> 00:27:27,472
Luke Skywalker.
447
00:27:27,474 --> 00:27:29,014
Cool, man.
448
00:27:29,016 --> 00:27:31,599
My partner, he loved that movie.
449
00:27:49,307 --> 00:27:52,431
Say...
450
00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:54,931
were you with Julie and
her brother the whole night?
451
00:27:54,933 --> 00:27:59,472
Or was there ever a time
y'all went different ways?
452
00:27:59,474 --> 00:28:04,264
Yeah. They'd been to a couple
houses before we met up.
453
00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,597
But I don't think she had the doll then.
454
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:10,222
How 'bout the rest of the night?
455
00:28:10,224 --> 00:28:14,097
We mighta split up once or twice.
456
00:28:14,099 --> 00:28:17,014
But... not for long.
457
00:28:17,016 --> 00:28:19,472
I saw her talking to people.
458
00:28:19,474 --> 00:28:21,307
Adults, maybe.
459
00:28:22,433 --> 00:28:24,264
They were two ghosts.
460
00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:26,266
Just in big sheets.
461
00:28:28,091 --> 00:28:30,633
You don't know who the ghosts were?
462
00:28:33,349 --> 00:28:36,141
Can you show us where it was y'all went?
463
00:28:38,433 --> 00:28:39,599
Here.
464
00:29:20,849 --> 00:29:23,346
You musta had some good times.
465
00:29:23,349 --> 00:29:27,347
- When y'all meet?
- Hmm...
466
00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:31,055
thirteen years back.
467
00:29:31,057 --> 00:29:34,016
We got married 'cause she was pregnant.
468
00:29:36,016 --> 00:29:38,723
How long you knew her before?
469
00:29:38,725 --> 00:29:40,599
Not long.
470
00:29:42,057 --> 00:29:45,431
Got married three months after we met.
471
00:29:45,433 --> 00:29:48,556
The Fort Smith courthouse.
472
00:29:48,558 --> 00:29:50,694
Me and Lucy, we...
473
00:29:50,697 --> 00:29:55,576
We never really knew each other,
we just... well, had the kids.
474
00:30:01,808 --> 00:30:03,764
My kids. Will and...
475
00:30:17,808 --> 00:30:20,891
Are we gonna find Julie, or what?
476
00:30:22,474 --> 00:30:26,180
'Cause I can't live through this, man.
477
00:30:26,182 --> 00:30:29,307
Neither of us can.
478
00:30:32,266 --> 00:30:35,391
If we're not gonna find
her, I just need to know now.
479
00:30:40,967 --> 00:30:43,965
I can't go to sleep...
480
00:30:45,558 --> 00:30:47,766
...and I can't wake up.
481
00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:53,597
Now, you're sayin' last week, Halloween,
482
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:54,931
girl got one of these dolls,
483
00:30:54,933 --> 00:30:57,055
and then you found two of
them at the crime scene?
484
00:30:57,057 --> 00:30:59,139
It's an identifier, boss.
485
00:30:59,141 --> 00:31:00,931
So what do you want to do?
486
00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:04,848
We wondered maybe let's put
it out on the TV or paper.
487
00:31:04,850 --> 00:31:07,214
Ask everybody if they seen one of those,
488
00:31:07,217 --> 00:31:09,764
or know who makes 'em around here.
489
00:31:09,766 --> 00:31:13,014
But that'd tip our hand.
We're not ready for that.
490
00:31:13,017 --> 00:31:14,308
What's better...
491
00:31:14,311 --> 00:31:17,139
There's 114 households
in the marked area
492
00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:18,848
and the subdivision near it.
493
00:31:18,850 --> 00:31:20,472
We do total surveillance.
494
00:31:20,474 --> 00:31:23,180
We have people searchin'
every single house.
495
00:31:23,182 --> 00:31:26,305
Oh, come on. You don't have enough
for one warrant, much less a hundred.
496
00:31:26,307 --> 00:31:30,055
No warrants. Say, two days, maybe three.
497
00:31:30,057 --> 00:31:32,227
Every detective we have.
498
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:34,394
Pull in more feds, you want.
499
00:31:34,397 --> 00:31:37,097
Everybody just knocks and
asks if they can search.
500
00:31:37,099 --> 00:31:39,681
Say it'll help with the Purcell case.
501
00:31:39,683 --> 00:31:42,139
People won't like it...
502
00:31:42,141 --> 00:31:44,222
but a lot, I bet...
503
00:31:44,224 --> 00:31:46,097
a lot of people let us look around.
504
00:31:46,099 --> 00:31:48,097
We keep surveillance.
505
00:31:48,099 --> 00:31:50,264
See if somebody starts actin' hinky.
506
00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:53,191
Nobody escapes the net.
Our guy panics or somethin',
507
00:31:53,194 --> 00:31:55,444
we do it fast... Without announcement.
508
00:31:55,447 --> 00:31:56,972
Even if you find anything,
509
00:31:56,975 --> 00:31:58,848
it could be problematic at trial.
510
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:00,670
This is about the girl, not a trial.
511
00:32:01,819 --> 00:32:04,139
Something happened on
Halloween, that night.
512
00:32:04,141 --> 00:32:05,931
She gets that doll.
513
00:32:05,933 --> 00:32:07,806
A week later, she and
her brother are gone,
514
00:32:07,808 --> 00:32:09,723
and you got two of those
things on the scene.
515
00:32:09,725 --> 00:32:12,081
Maybe the perp just
brought 'em somewhere.
516
00:32:12,084 --> 00:32:14,514
You know? Maybe the dolls
belonged to the girl.
517
00:32:14,516 --> 00:32:18,180
It's all maybes, man. You do
the maybe that gives you a shot.
518
00:32:18,182 --> 00:32:20,147
No, it's thin.
519
00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:24,222
And our constituents here, they
value privacy and property rights.
520
00:32:24,224 --> 00:32:26,389
They aren't just gonna acquiesce
521
00:32:26,391 --> 00:32:28,850
to random searches of their homes.
522
00:32:29,967 --> 00:32:31,888
There's other ways to approach it.
523
00:32:31,891 --> 00:32:34,889
If we bring in the public,
it stirs up the town
524
00:32:34,891 --> 00:32:37,055
and lets our guy know
what we're thinkin'.
525
00:32:37,057 --> 00:32:40,725
Maybe he takes off. Maybe he just
kills her... if he hasn't already.
526
00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:45,472
We can just do it fast.
527
00:32:45,474 --> 00:32:47,891
People will get over it.
528
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:51,723
Warren.
529
00:32:51,725 --> 00:32:53,933
Just give us some time, Roland.
530
00:33:19,933 --> 00:33:21,973
Been runnin' this sting.
531
00:33:21,975 --> 00:33:24,931
Truck stop next door. Prosts and drugs.
532
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:27,472
I was gonna check this
guy out at some point.
533
00:33:27,474 --> 00:33:30,222
He asked one of the workin' girls
534
00:33:30,224 --> 00:33:31,764
if they had any younger friends.
535
00:33:31,766 --> 00:33:34,639
And another said he asked her, too.
536
00:33:34,641 --> 00:33:38,222
Came in here lookin'
for special magazines.
537
00:33:38,225 --> 00:33:40,925
Ted LaGrange. Pulled his file.
538
00:33:40,928 --> 00:33:43,097
He got outta Wrightsville a while back.
539
00:33:43,099 --> 00:33:44,776
Carnal knowledge of a minor.
540
00:33:44,779 --> 00:33:47,933
Enticing a minor. Buncha shit.
541
00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:53,516
Callin' himself "Robert" somethin' now.
542
00:33:54,641 --> 00:33:56,141
Thanks, Rich.
543
00:33:57,933 --> 00:34:00,973
Man...
544
00:34:00,975 --> 00:34:03,641
you gotta come in here every day?
545
00:34:05,474 --> 00:34:07,474
Welcome to Vice.
546
00:34:17,975 --> 00:34:21,014
♪ I love my man ♪
547
00:34:21,016 --> 00:34:24,474
♪ I'm a liar if I say I don't ♪
548
00:34:27,433 --> 00:34:29,889
♪ I love my man ♪
549
00:34:29,891 --> 00:34:33,347
♪ I'm a liar if I say I don't... ♪
550
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:36,556
I haven't seen you here before, have I?
551
00:34:36,558 --> 00:34:39,639
I'm usually at the VFW.
552
00:34:39,641 --> 00:34:42,556
♪ I'm a liar if I say I won't... ♪
553
00:34:42,558 --> 00:34:46,848
Want to thank you for everything
you did today with the kid.
554
00:34:46,850 --> 00:34:50,764
He wasn't talkin' to us
'til you opened him up.
555
00:34:50,766 --> 00:34:53,305
Real grateful for that.
556
00:34:53,307 --> 00:34:56,681
He was broken up about it.
557
00:34:56,683 --> 00:34:59,516
I think he had a crush on Julie.
558
00:35:00,891 --> 00:35:03,681
Why'd you give me that picture?
559
00:35:03,683 --> 00:35:06,014
The doll.
560
00:35:06,016 --> 00:35:08,681
Instinct, I guess.
561
00:35:08,683 --> 00:35:11,224
I knew the kids weren't talkin' to us.
562
00:35:13,224 --> 00:35:15,224
You were in the war?
563
00:35:16,808 --> 00:35:18,723
You're a cop,
564
00:35:18,725 --> 00:35:22,472
so you want to know more about a
person, you just look 'em up, huh?
565
00:35:22,474 --> 00:35:24,391
Pretty much.
566
00:35:25,391 --> 00:35:27,558
Did you look me up?
567
00:35:31,808 --> 00:35:33,850
Thought about it, though.
568
00:35:40,182 --> 00:35:42,597
I was born here.
569
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,139
I went to U of A.
570
00:35:45,141 --> 00:35:48,347
Dropped out my junior year.
571
00:35:48,349 --> 00:35:50,806
Went west with a friend.
572
00:35:50,808 --> 00:35:52,764
We got in with some people.
573
00:35:52,766 --> 00:35:55,266
I was in this scene, San Francisco.
574
00:35:57,099 --> 00:36:01,933
Anti-war, kind of fringe Panther stuff.
575
00:36:03,224 --> 00:36:06,431
Some things happened, not good.
576
00:36:06,433 --> 00:36:09,681
And then I was alone.
577
00:36:09,683 --> 00:36:14,099
'74, I came back home, got my degree.
578
00:36:19,224 --> 00:36:21,224
I grew up in Conway.
579
00:36:22,266 --> 00:36:24,099
My mom worked on a farm.
580
00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:28,264
I spent two years in the jungle,
581
00:36:28,266 --> 00:36:30,266
a lot of it I was alone.
582
00:36:31,975 --> 00:36:35,391
I hunt a lot now. Alone.
583
00:36:36,725 --> 00:36:39,414
I'm a vegetarian.
584
00:36:39,417 --> 00:36:41,639
That's a real shame.
585
00:36:41,641 --> 00:36:44,766
If you're a Democrat, don't tell me.
586
00:36:48,641 --> 00:36:50,516
You like teachin'?
587
00:36:51,808 --> 00:36:53,808
Sometimes.
588
00:36:54,975 --> 00:36:58,139
I want to be a writer.
589
00:36:58,141 --> 00:36:59,808
Write books.
590
00:37:01,307 --> 00:37:03,764
I don't read enough.
591
00:37:03,766 --> 00:37:06,474
I like Batman and Silver Surfer.
592
00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:12,389
I had this sorta
dyslexic thing growin' up.
593
00:37:12,391 --> 00:37:14,597
Was that hard?
594
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,889
They said I was dumb.
595
00:37:16,891 --> 00:37:19,891
My mom wasn't havin' any of that.
596
00:37:22,725 --> 00:37:26,347
That poem you were
teachin'. I looked it up.
597
00:37:26,349 --> 00:37:29,431
- Oh, yeah?
- I read it.
598
00:37:29,433 --> 00:37:32,641
I'm not ready to talk about
it yet, but I have thoughts.
599
00:37:33,975 --> 00:37:36,850
- Share when you want.
- All right.
600
00:37:39,182 --> 00:37:41,347
You ever been married?
601
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:42,725
No.
602
00:37:44,433 --> 00:37:45,514
You?
603
00:37:45,516 --> 00:37:48,349
I was engaged. Seven months.
604
00:37:49,641 --> 00:37:51,264
I broke it off.
605
00:37:51,266 --> 00:37:53,639
I didn't want to be married, I realized.
606
00:37:53,641 --> 00:37:57,641
- I don't wanna get married.
- No?
607
00:38:00,141 --> 00:38:03,556
Guy the other day said I must be crazy.
608
00:38:03,558 --> 00:38:09,681
Thing is, and I've thought
of this for a while...
609
00:38:09,683 --> 00:38:12,556
I think I might be.
610
00:38:12,558 --> 00:38:14,391
Like how?
611
00:38:19,558 --> 00:38:22,055
I wear clip-on ties
'cause I'm preoccupied
612
00:38:22,057 --> 00:38:24,556
with this idea of getting
strangled with one.
613
00:38:27,641 --> 00:38:29,558
Is that too much?
614
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,222
This year, twice,
615
00:38:35,224 --> 00:38:37,222
I've been to St. Louis
616
00:38:37,224 --> 00:38:39,556
and I've stayed at this hotel,
617
00:38:39,558 --> 00:38:42,222
and I've pretended I'm someone else.
618
00:38:42,224 --> 00:38:46,848
I go out, meet new people,
and I am someone else.
619
00:38:46,850 --> 00:38:51,431
Different name, different
background, different job.
620
00:38:51,433 --> 00:38:52,928
Twice.
621
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:57,475
Hmm.
622
00:39:01,266 --> 00:39:04,431
You drink too much?
623
00:39:04,433 --> 00:39:06,931
I don't know.
624
00:39:06,933 --> 00:39:09,474
I might get drunk twice a month.
625
00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:13,639
Three times.
626
00:39:13,641 --> 00:39:16,764
I like to laugh, is the thing.
627
00:39:18,558 --> 00:39:22,014
Hey. Raise it up?
628
00:39:22,016 --> 00:39:26,055
Hurry. Quick.
629
00:39:26,057 --> 00:39:29,055
...information in the
Purcell murder-kidnapping,
630
00:39:29,057 --> 00:39:30,848
we go to the Washington
County courthouse
631
00:39:30,851 --> 00:39:33,305
- earlier this afternoon.
- Don't do it.
632
00:39:33,307 --> 00:39:35,177
We believe the missing girl,
633
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:38,139
Julie Purcell, was
contacted by her abductor
634
00:39:38,141 --> 00:39:40,867
while she participated
in Halloween last week.
635
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:43,327
We're sharing a graphic
636
00:39:43,328 --> 00:39:46,641
of the area where she and her
brother went trick-or-treating.
637
00:39:46,644 --> 00:39:48,523
Now, our investigation suggests
638
00:39:48,526 --> 00:39:50,472
that someone who saw her on Halloween
639
00:39:50,474 --> 00:39:52,513
has special knowledge of this case.
640
00:39:52,516 --> 00:39:55,764
- Givin' it away.
- Anyone who saw anything suspicious...
641
00:39:55,766 --> 00:39:58,930
- What's wrong?
- I'm sorry, I...
642
00:39:58,933 --> 00:40:01,570
I gotta go. Goddamnit.
643
00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:04,222
Are you saying the children
knew their kidnapper?
644
00:40:04,224 --> 00:40:08,047
I'm not at liberty to
reveal that at this time.
645
00:40:11,516 --> 00:40:14,389
I knew they wouldn't listen to me.
646
00:40:14,391 --> 00:40:17,014
But you shoulda stopped that.
647
00:40:17,016 --> 00:40:20,723
Me? What am I supposed to do?
648
00:40:20,725 --> 00:40:22,347
You were there.
649
00:40:22,349 --> 00:40:25,723
I'm sayin', I talk,
it don't mean anything.
650
00:40:25,725 --> 00:40:28,097
Don't matter if I'm right.
651
00:40:28,099 --> 00:40:31,097
You, at least, you talk,
it means somethin' to 'em.
652
00:40:31,099 --> 00:40:32,681
Might consider what you're saying.
653
00:40:32,683 --> 00:40:34,139
You mighta stopped 'em from doing that.
654
00:40:34,141 --> 00:40:37,331
Bullshit. Who knew
until it was on the TV?
655
00:40:37,334 --> 00:40:38,848
Why didn't you stop 'em?
656
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:42,305
They ain't my tribe, man.
Take care of your shit.
657
00:40:42,307 --> 00:40:45,055
Tribe? Where you think you are, asshole?
658
00:40:45,057 --> 00:40:46,842
- I know where I am.
- Do ya?
659
00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:48,498
It don't sound like it.
660
00:40:48,501 --> 00:40:51,723
Son, I know where I am in a
way you will never understand.
661
00:40:51,725 --> 00:40:53,472
Are you high, Purple Hays?
662
00:40:53,474 --> 00:40:55,723
'Cause you're makin'
about as much goddamn sense
663
00:40:55,725 --> 00:40:57,305
as my grandmother's dementia.
664
00:40:57,307 --> 00:40:58,848
No, I'm sayin' I know where I am.
665
00:40:58,850 --> 00:41:00,683
Hey, good for you.
666
00:41:28,558 --> 00:41:30,891
Was all I could think of.
667
00:41:33,433 --> 00:41:35,141
You got somethin' else?
668
00:41:37,141 --> 00:41:40,973
Vice gave me a dude near
Fort Smith to look at.
669
00:41:40,975 --> 00:41:42,766
I pulled his file.
670
00:41:44,453 --> 00:41:45,787
What is it?
671
00:41:51,224 --> 00:41:53,599
You can read for yourself.
672
00:42:05,433 --> 00:42:07,599
You wanna go get him?
673
00:42:10,349 --> 00:42:12,474
I wanna go get him.
674
00:42:13,891 --> 00:42:17,180
We might as well keep watch out here.
675
00:42:17,182 --> 00:42:19,881
Check the guy out in the mornin'.
676
00:42:19,884 --> 00:42:21,718
Toss his place first.
677
00:42:30,016 --> 00:42:31,850
We should get bennies.
678
00:42:34,182 --> 00:42:36,349
Stayin' up all night.
679
00:42:38,182 --> 00:42:41,141
Glove box. Red-and-blue ones.
680
00:42:44,182 --> 00:42:46,931
Prosecutin' attorney decided...
681
00:42:46,933 --> 00:42:50,222
best thing was to take our single clue
682
00:42:50,225 --> 00:42:52,517
and spread it all over the town.
683
00:42:54,391 --> 00:42:57,889
And that got us a few hundred
false tips the first couple of days.
684
00:42:57,891 --> 00:43:01,139
That's when it all
started with the town.
685
00:43:01,141 --> 00:43:02,516
Just panic.
686
00:43:08,141 --> 00:43:12,224
Lived in their
imaginations now, you see?
687
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,180
Everybody was scared.
688
00:43:33,197 --> 00:43:35,281
That included us.
689
00:43:53,266 --> 00:43:54,516
Hi.
690
00:43:55,885 --> 00:43:57,801
Mornin'.
691
00:43:57,804 --> 00:44:01,180
♪ And I'll never
make you sad again ♪
692
00:44:01,182 --> 00:44:04,431
♪ 'Cause I swear... ♪
693
00:44:04,433 --> 00:44:06,055
You gonna eat?
694
00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:09,266
♪ And I'll never make you sorry... ♪
695
00:44:10,133 --> 00:44:11,966
Me neither.
696
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,141
We need you to come with us, sir.
697
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,089
Uh, wha... what's the...
698
00:44:21,092 --> 00:44:23,764
We'll tell ya on the way.
699
00:44:23,766 --> 00:44:27,806
No! Please!
700
00:44:27,808 --> 00:44:30,597
No, it's not me, I swear to God!
701
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,305
You're wrong about this.
702
00:44:32,307 --> 00:44:34,431
You shouldn't have brought me here.
703
00:44:34,433 --> 00:44:36,764
This get you off, mister, huh?
704
00:44:36,766 --> 00:44:39,641
You entertain fantasies of
strappin' white men to posts?
705
00:44:41,182 --> 00:44:43,599
- Now and then, yeah.
- Really?
706
00:44:44,724 --> 00:44:46,847
Uhh!
707
00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:48,848
Talk about your fantasies.
708
00:44:48,850 --> 00:44:50,592
Then he'll tell ya his.
709
00:44:50,595 --> 00:44:53,388
Theodore LaGrange.
710
00:44:53,391 --> 00:44:55,639
It's Ted, yeah?
711
00:44:55,641 --> 00:44:57,850
Ted, you been out a bit over two years.
712
00:44:57,853 --> 00:45:01,122
I know what you're doing,
and I haven't done anything.
713
00:45:01,125 --> 00:45:02,831
Released from Wrightsville.
714
00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:05,472
You got Little Rock up the road.
715
00:45:05,474 --> 00:45:07,975
Why'd you come way out here, Ted?
716
00:45:09,683 --> 00:45:12,472
And why you callin'
yourself Robert Hebert?
717
00:45:12,474 --> 00:45:15,264
I-I wanted a new start.
718
00:45:15,266 --> 00:45:17,975
They keep you in protective
custody in Wrightsville?
719
00:45:19,466 --> 00:45:21,383
Hmm. Figured.
720
00:45:22,558 --> 00:45:24,889
Guys who mess with kids,
721
00:45:24,891 --> 00:45:27,639
they don't usually make it
out with all their parts.
722
00:45:27,641 --> 00:45:29,723
Tell me how you mess with kids.
723
00:45:29,725 --> 00:45:31,681
The boy and the girl.
724
00:45:31,683 --> 00:45:34,514
Your landlady said you didn't
come home last Friday night.
725
00:45:34,517 --> 00:45:35,990
- What?
- The 7th.
726
00:45:35,993 --> 00:45:39,154
That's not... I was
out. I-I was just out.
727
00:45:39,157 --> 00:45:41,988
Help me understand what it
was like for you in the moment.
728
00:45:41,991 --> 00:45:44,639
Let me feel your side of it. Okay?
729
00:45:44,641 --> 00:45:47,055
Tell me why you killed the boy.
730
00:45:47,057 --> 00:45:50,556
I didn't! I never seen him
before he was on the news.
731
00:45:54,933 --> 00:45:57,683
You'll wanna explain to me
where you were that night.
732
00:45:59,725 --> 00:46:03,681
Help me see your side of things.
733
00:46:03,683 --> 00:46:06,389
What'd you do on Halloween
night? Where were you?
734
00:46:10,099 --> 00:46:12,431
Well...
735
00:46:12,433 --> 00:46:15,848
we're here to listen
when you want to share.
736
00:46:15,850 --> 00:46:19,639
Aaaaah!
737
00:46:41,514 --> 00:46:42,723
Yes.
738
00:46:42,725 --> 00:46:44,597
He's here Mondays and Fridays.
739
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,139
We do storytime twice
a week in the evenin's,
740
00:46:47,141 --> 00:46:48,723
and he plays guitar for it.
741
00:46:48,725 --> 00:46:52,389
But his name's Robert
Hebert, not what you said.
742
00:46:52,391 --> 00:46:54,556
And he worked on the 7th? Last Friday?
743
00:46:54,558 --> 00:46:55,806
Yes. Mm-hmm.
744
00:46:55,808 --> 00:46:57,681
You know what time he left that night?
745
00:46:57,683 --> 00:46:59,723
Probably about 8:00 or after.
746
00:46:59,725 --> 00:47:03,305
He helped us put up
the tables and chairs.
747
00:47:03,307 --> 00:47:04,889
Did he do something?
748
00:47:04,891 --> 00:47:08,099
You're not gonna see this guy anymore.
749
00:47:09,565 --> 00:47:11,565
If you do, give us a call, okay?
750
00:47:17,307 --> 00:47:19,514
Robbery was a couple of months ago.
751
00:47:19,516 --> 00:47:22,597
All I know for sure is
that her prints showed up.
752
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:24,472
It's like you said...
753
00:47:24,474 --> 00:47:26,723
They don't know if she was a customer
754
00:47:26,725 --> 00:47:28,681
or part of the break-in.
755
00:47:28,683 --> 00:47:31,014
Was it a partial or a full?
756
00:47:31,016 --> 00:47:32,266
Full.
757
00:47:33,433 --> 00:47:34,808
It was her.
758
00:47:36,975 --> 00:47:38,623
They had video surveillance?
759
00:47:38,626 --> 00:47:40,889
They smashed the camera in the pharmacy.
760
00:47:40,891 --> 00:47:43,264
Store's got footage goin'
back three days prior.
761
00:47:43,266 --> 00:47:46,014
We subpoenaed it, but we have to wait.
762
00:47:46,016 --> 00:47:48,639
Somebody watchin' the store
in case she comes back?
763
00:47:48,641 --> 00:47:52,305
My understandin', Sallisaw
PD's focused on the robbery.
764
00:47:52,307 --> 00:47:54,317
And I wouldn't say the locals are a
765
00:47:54,318 --> 00:47:57,388
crackerjack investigative
team or anything.
766
00:47:57,391 --> 00:47:59,055
So nothin'.
767
00:47:59,057 --> 00:48:01,097
Man's family didn't have the resources
768
00:48:01,099 --> 00:48:02,474
for an investigator...
769
00:48:03,808 --> 00:48:06,349
but obviously, we'd like to find her.
770
00:48:12,558 --> 00:48:15,764
What about Arkansas PD?
They lookin' for her?
771
00:48:15,766 --> 00:48:17,631
There's nobody on the case yet.
772
00:48:17,634 --> 00:48:19,576
Kindt's office will have to look at it
773
00:48:19,579 --> 00:48:21,930
since they'll be defending
our motion to overturn,
774
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:24,431
but right now, no.
775
00:48:24,433 --> 00:48:26,639
I don't think so.
776
00:48:26,641 --> 00:48:29,683
You all right goin' up
against your old boss?
777
00:48:31,224 --> 00:48:33,182
It's overdue.
778
00:48:45,766 --> 00:48:47,180
Talk to Roland?
779
00:48:47,182 --> 00:48:49,391
We have an appointment.
780
00:48:50,683 --> 00:48:52,641
He's done well.
781
00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:55,683
He has.
782
00:49:15,890 --> 00:49:18,013
You wanna execute him?
783
00:49:18,016 --> 00:49:20,723
We can bury him right out
here, I don't give a shit.
784
00:49:20,725 --> 00:49:24,514
Throw him off a
bridge... Nobody'll care.
785
00:49:24,516 --> 00:49:28,014
Put him in holding,
get his parole violated.
786
00:49:28,016 --> 00:49:29,931
He'll be back in Wrightsville tomorrow.
787
00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:33,764
- Full sentence.
- If you say so.
788
00:49:33,766 --> 00:49:35,639
Talk shit about us...
789
00:49:35,641 --> 00:49:38,639
I'll have monstrous niggers
fuck him to death in his cell.
790
00:49:39,893 --> 00:49:43,172
D'you hear me, boy? You
will bleed black cock.
791
00:49:48,016 --> 00:49:51,766
Gotta catch up, man. Just
spent the day on this bullshit.
792
00:49:57,133 --> 00:50:01,297
That was a vivid description
of prison rape. Jesus.
793
00:50:01,307 --> 00:50:03,431
Could tell he had the racial thing.
794
00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:05,472
Remember what he said in the barn?
795
00:50:05,474 --> 00:50:08,266
Still... it's gonna haunt me.
796
00:50:12,933 --> 00:50:15,474
D-12, do you copy?
797
00:50:19,266 --> 00:50:21,055
Copy, dispatch.
798
00:50:21,057 --> 00:50:24,057
Lieutenant Twiggs wants
y'all at the Purcell place.
799
00:50:26,016 --> 00:50:27,431
What's up?
800
00:50:27,433 --> 00:50:29,975
Someone said the family got a note.
801
00:50:33,891 --> 00:50:36,141
Copy. On the way.
802
00:50:52,933 --> 00:50:55,016
- Hey, Dad.
- Hi.
803
00:51:12,349 --> 00:51:14,761
_
804
00:51:18,214 --> 00:51:20,180
Hey. Hey!
805
00:51:20,182 --> 00:51:22,639
Did you see? They sent me the galleys.
806
00:51:22,641 --> 00:51:24,016
That's great.
807
00:51:25,516 --> 00:51:27,850
You got a little loose after work?
808
00:51:29,266 --> 00:51:31,151
How was the deposition?
809
00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:32,446
It was fine.
810
00:51:41,482 --> 00:51:43,858
It's as much about us as anything.
811
00:51:45,808 --> 00:51:49,055
And I think her and me, it was as close
812
00:51:49,058 --> 00:51:51,891
as she could give the
thing a happy ending.
813
00:51:54,266 --> 00:51:56,389
After the events of 1990,
814
00:51:56,391 --> 00:51:59,764
and what happened with
Julie and her father,
815
00:51:59,766 --> 00:52:02,097
you left the PD.
816
00:52:02,099 --> 00:52:04,889
Did you believe that concluded the case?
817
00:52:04,891 --> 00:52:08,848
Did you feel the investigation
ended too abruptly?
818
00:52:08,858 --> 00:52:12,065
She wrote six novels
after. This was her first.
819
00:52:13,307 --> 00:52:17,222
Uh, very... to a cop,
820
00:52:17,224 --> 00:52:19,973
very impressive eye for detail.
821
00:52:19,975 --> 00:52:21,639
Have you read it?
822
00:52:21,641 --> 00:52:24,745
Mr. Hays, did you have
theories after what happened
823
00:52:24,748 --> 00:52:27,190
with Julie Purcell
and her father in '90?
824
00:52:27,193 --> 00:52:28,831
Theories that weren't in line
825
00:52:28,834 --> 00:52:30,415
with your superior's directives?
826
00:52:30,418 --> 00:52:32,513
I heard what you asked.
827
00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:35,723
The answer is...
828
00:52:35,725 --> 00:52:39,307
I never stopped coming up
with theories about that case.
829
00:52:40,433 --> 00:52:42,723
And I hit Todd and Dave into home,
830
00:52:42,725 --> 00:52:44,683
and when I went over, we won.
831
00:52:44,686 --> 00:52:47,179
Coach saw, and came and
talked to me about baseball
832
00:52:47,182 --> 00:52:48,975
when I get older.
833
00:52:52,975 --> 00:52:55,570
- That's fantastic, Henry.
- Mm-hmm.
834
00:52:55,573 --> 00:52:57,268
You're gonna be very athletic.
835
00:52:57,271 --> 00:52:58,435
You already are.
836
00:53:12,016 --> 00:53:14,931
The publisher said we can issue
an update for the paperback
837
00:53:14,933 --> 00:53:17,556
once this appeal goes to trial.
838
00:53:17,558 --> 00:53:18,933
Yeah?
839
00:53:23,182 --> 00:53:26,180
You're a bit out of it tonight.
840
00:53:26,182 --> 00:53:27,639
The kids noticed.
841
00:53:27,641 --> 00:53:30,266
You can't be that way in front of them.
842
00:53:31,641 --> 00:53:33,933
- I'm not drunk.
- What's going on?
843
00:53:35,716 --> 00:53:38,007
What happened with the deposition?
844
00:53:39,474 --> 00:53:41,933
They overturning the conviction?
845
00:53:45,141 --> 00:53:47,474
Julie Purcell is alive.
846
00:54:00,182 --> 00:54:03,347
Thought for sure you'd all beat us here.
847
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:05,514
What is that, huh?
848
00:54:05,516 --> 00:54:07,014
What's that mean?
849
00:54:12,196 --> 00:54:19,573
_
850
00:54:22,109 --> 00:54:24,441
Well, what's it mean?
851
00:54:24,444 --> 00:54:26,193
Hmm?
852
00:54:38,016 --> 00:54:41,057
You want more chicken, Wayne?
853
00:54:46,683 --> 00:54:48,889
Thanks for the spread, Heather.
854
00:54:48,891 --> 00:54:50,806
This is wonderful.
855
00:54:50,808 --> 00:54:52,764
Are you feelin' all right?
856
00:54:52,766 --> 00:54:54,305
Uh...
857
00:54:54,307 --> 00:54:56,393
He's been goin' back through that case.
858
00:54:56,396 --> 00:54:57,646
Mom's book.
859
00:54:59,224 --> 00:55:01,723
I never read the whole thing.
860
00:55:01,725 --> 00:55:04,558
Couldn't stand I was in it so much.
861
00:55:06,641 --> 00:55:08,889
Goin' back over the story, it's good...
862
00:55:08,891 --> 00:55:11,389
Makin' me work my brain, I mean.
863
00:55:11,391 --> 00:55:13,433
Leadin' me to other stuff.
864
00:55:17,516 --> 00:55:20,931
Maybe you guys could see
about gettin' Rebecca out here.
865
00:55:20,933 --> 00:55:23,099
I'd like to see her.
866
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:27,764
She's in L.A., Dad.
867
00:55:27,766 --> 00:55:29,931
When did that happen?
868
00:55:29,934 --> 00:55:32,073
What's she doin' out there?
869
00:55:32,943 --> 00:55:35,110
She's playin' music, Wayne.
870
00:55:38,975 --> 00:55:40,597
She okay? You talk to her?
871
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:43,099
I talked to her a few weeks ago.
872
00:55:45,224 --> 00:55:47,472
Think she'd come back home for a visit?
873
00:55:47,474 --> 00:55:50,472
She don't like it here, Dad.
874
00:55:50,474 --> 00:55:52,081
Why not?
875
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:55,848
I just don't think it suits her.
876
00:55:55,850 --> 00:55:58,806
- She never liked it.
- She didn't?
877
00:55:58,808 --> 00:56:01,806
Hey!
878
00:56:01,808 --> 00:56:04,180
One more time, okay?
879
00:56:05,933 --> 00:56:08,055
Shh. Eat.
880
00:56:08,057 --> 00:56:11,683
It's goin' by pretty quick.
881
00:56:13,474 --> 00:56:15,474
Don't I know it.
882
00:56:18,975 --> 00:56:22,431
Maybe you guys could see
about gettin' Rebecca out here.
883
00:56:22,433 --> 00:56:24,474
I'd like to see her.
884
00:57:34,330 --> 00:57:39,206
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