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Previously on "The Walking Dead"...
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We just took in two new communities.
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We have no crops, no back stock.
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The last big horde scared
all the animals away.
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We can find new territory.
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We don't have time. We
need food. Lots of it. Now.
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The people that attacked us...
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we only knew two things about them.
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They come at night.
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And by the time you see
them, you're already dead.
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Run!
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Dog!
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Elijah!
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No!
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See you in 30.
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Kel. Kel, Kel.
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I missed you this morning.
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Thought we had a shift together.
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Sorry. Something came up.
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You still want to do
those shifts with me?
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It's okay if you don't.
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Next time. I promise.
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Kel.
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Do you...
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Do you wanna talk about it?
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Nothing to talk about.
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Come on. Everyone... pull!
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Hey. Going somewhere?
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We need to get our horses back.
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You see the east wall when you came in?
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I did.
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You were marked down to help today.
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Looks like you've got a crew already.
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Well, you were gone all morning.
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We started without you.
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I'm sorry, Aaron. I can't today.
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Because you're tracking horses
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that you have almost
no hope of catching?
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You know, Daryl and I
went down that road before.
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Didn't work out so well for Buttons.
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We're almost out of MREs,
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and the fields are a joke...
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And our walls are about to fail.
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Well, if we don't get those horses,
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we're not gonna be able to move
anything heavier than a sack of grain.
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Or go out far enough
to scavenge anything,
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and we're all gonna starve to death.
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So I'll be back in a few hours.
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I'm hungry, too.
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Do you ever worry about
your mom when she goes away?
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I'm used to it.
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Grown-ups are always
running off doing things.
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"Promise I'll see you soon.
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Love you."
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They used to say that kind of stuff
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in the olden times, right?
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They can't promise it now,
but they say it anyways.
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They don't want us to think
they're never coming back.
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It's supposed to make us feel better.
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They say it to make
themselves feel better.
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Still...
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my mom always comes back.
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Yeah.
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Dang it.
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Lord, you are my refuge
and my strength...
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My refuge and my strength...
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My refuge...
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Alden.
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Maggie.
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Jesus.
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Let me see?
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Sure thing, boss.
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That good, huh?
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You think you can walk?
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- Not gonna know until we try.
- Whoa, whoa.
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You're not seriously
thinking that we keep going.
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They'll be back. We gotta keep moving.
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All right, wait. What
exactly is the plan here?
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The plan doesn't change.
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We need that food.
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We get to the radio tower,
find the supply house,
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and wait for the others.
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And what if the others are dead?
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Listen, I know theatrics.
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Those people, they just told us
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exactly how insane they are.
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We can't be on a road.
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We can't be on any road
that they could use.
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It's a shit plan.
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Then you tell me a better one
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that doesn't starve us all.
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Right.
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I am on your side, Maggie.
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Then help me with him.
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2, 3, go.
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No.
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Not unless you want Coco
tripping the light fantastic.
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Yeah, but just for like
a week, tops, right?
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- You good?
- Yeah.
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Yeah, it's just that
Gabriel's on a mission,
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and I'm over being stuck in the house.
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Why? What're you guys doing?
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Wait.
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Damn it!
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Fourth time's the charm.
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Let's get a move on.
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You okay?
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I'll be better when this is done.
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I've been having dreams
about Abraham recently.
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Yeah?
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Yeah, he's trying to tell me something.
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I know it's something important,
something I'm supposed to do.
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But I can't hear him most of the time,
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and just when I'm about to...
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he, um... he gets shot in the head.
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Well, that's dark.
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Yeah, I don't know why
I just told you that.
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No, I get it.
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It used to freak me out,
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but now I think it's a
message for us, for Alexandria.
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What do you think he's trying to say?
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I don't know.
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You know, if a horse
lets you touch its ear,
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it means it trusts you.
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I read that once.
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You think we'll get them back?
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Horses are wild creatures.
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You never know.
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It's 2 miles. It's
further than I thought.
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We better get moving.
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Holding your hand's not
gonna help me walk any faster.
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Yeah? Does the thought
of one of those things
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ripping your face off do it for you?
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If you're scared, why don't you
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make yourself useful and go kill 'em?
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Really? So we're just gonna
go towards the screaming?
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Cool.
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Agatha!
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Maggie. It's Duncan.
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Duncan.
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Duncan.
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I'm so sorry.
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For all of it.
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Why?
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We were good.
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We were lucky.
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For a little while.
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Make sure she gets home.
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Promise.
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This way.
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No.
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No.
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It can't be.
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It's okay.
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We'll keep looking for the rest.
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They'll stay close to the water.
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Not if it's full of corpses they won't.
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Carol, it's getting late.
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She's right.
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We don't have to do this right now.
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Let's come back tomorrow.
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No, Alexandria needed
these horses yesterday.
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Carol...
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Let's go home.
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We'll try again.
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Next time.
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Hey.
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Maybe not.
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Dope.
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They're headed towards the dairy farm.
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- And?
- The dairy farm's got paddocks.
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We can pen them in.
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Come on. Let's go.
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Easy now. Easy now.
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Drop the lassos.
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Why?
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Just do it.
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They're not running.
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I think they want to come home.
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Hey.
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Whoa.
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Though I walk through the
valley of the shadow of death,
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I will fear no evil,
for thou art with me.
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Though I walk through the
valley of the shadow of death,
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I will fear no evil,
for thou art with me.
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You move slower than
I thought you would.
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Don't be scared.
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I'm not.
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We have been blessed.
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I...
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I have been blessed.
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You have a funny definition of blessed.
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But it is you who has come for me.
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Will you pray for me?
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You tried to kill my friends.
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Yes.
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And they tried to kill me.
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Pray for me.
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Even your enemies deserve that much.
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I thought you were a man of God.
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God isn't here anymore.
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Twice as many as before.
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We need to rethink your plan, Maggie.
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You're a free man, Negan. You wanna go?
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Go.
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I can help you.
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You know, your friends, they trusted me.
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You were gone for a long time.
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Things change. People change.
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No.
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Maybe you've got them
fooled, but not me.
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Stop pretending you're one of us, Negan.
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Maybe you even believe it.
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But you're probably as
good at lying to yourself
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as you are to everybody else.
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You okay, Maggie?
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Yeah.
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I can handle Negan.
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I wasn't talking about Negan.
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This can't be what you thought
you'd be coming home to.
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It can't be what you
told Hershel he'd see.
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You know, not much surprises me anymore.
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Except Hilltop.
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It's not the place I told Hershel about.
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Hold on a sec.
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You know, I'm not sure much
surprises him anymore, either.
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You'll build it back up,
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better than it was before.
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We will.
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Sure.
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We'll get it done.
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At least by the time
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that Adam is old enough to remember.
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I leave for one minute,
and you're raising a kid.
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Maggie, if I, uh...
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We'll start when we get back, okay?
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The good news is, he
lives in Alexandria, so...
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- small wins.
- Mm-hmm.
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What the hell?
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This way.
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Come on!
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Let's go.
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I got him.
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Agatha!
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- Go! Just go!
- No! Come on!
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- Run!
- No!
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- Run!
- No!
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Agatha, no!
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No! Get off!
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No! No! No! No! No!
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Look! They're back!
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They've got the horses!
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Oh, my God!
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I'll go get Aaron.
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All right, I'm out.
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Bye.
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Very good boy.
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Hey, Carol.
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Can we talk?
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Yeah, sure.
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I know what you're doing,
and I want you to stop.
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Sorry?
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You're giving Kelly false hope.
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I-I don't understand.
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Yes, you do.
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You don't think Connie's alive.
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You just can't accept
what it means if she's not.
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Well, you're Connie's family.
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I would think you'd
want to know either way.
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I want my family to heal.
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All that's left of it.
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Kelly looks up to you.
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Carol, I'm sorry for
whatever you're going through,
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but I'm asking you, I'm begging you,
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00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:06,954
whatever doing or telling her, stop.
277
00:31:06,997 --> 00:31:09,522
You're just making it harder.
278
00:31:18,444 --> 00:31:21,360
Come on, buddy.
279
00:31:27,322 --> 00:31:29,455
There you go.
280
00:33:04,202 --> 00:33:06,987
Go on.
281
00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:10,382
No, thank you.
282
00:33:10,425 --> 00:33:14,386
Just take really small bites.
283
00:33:14,429 --> 00:33:17,345
The smaller, the better.
284
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:19,347
You've eaten it before?
285
00:33:19,391 --> 00:33:21,741
Yeah, on the road, with my mom.
286
00:33:21,784 --> 00:33:24,004
You eat what you find.
287
00:33:29,227 --> 00:33:31,403
You ever been on the road?
288
00:33:31,446 --> 00:33:32,708
Not like that.
289
00:33:32,752 --> 00:33:35,233
Well, you meet a lot
of different people.
290
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,368
Just chew it fast.
291
00:33:40,412 --> 00:33:42,805
It's not that bad.
292
00:33:42,849 --> 00:33:44,894
Not like the spiders.
293
00:33:52,293 --> 00:33:55,818
Wanna see if we can pet a pony?
294
00:33:55,862 --> 00:33:58,256
Hey. Look.
295
00:33:58,299 --> 00:34:00,258
They're interested.
296
00:34:02,608 --> 00:34:06,046
Do you want to pet a pony?
297
00:34:06,089 --> 00:34:08,135
Beautiful, right? Look. Look.
298
00:35:07,629 --> 00:35:09,109
Ready?
299
00:35:09,152 --> 00:35:10,893
Mm-hmm.
300
00:35:25,952 --> 00:35:28,476
Goddamn shit.
301
00:35:31,436 --> 00:35:32,828
What?
302
00:35:32,872 --> 00:35:35,353
You like the taste of crap cardboard?
303
00:35:39,313 --> 00:35:42,098
We should get back in the woods.
304
00:35:42,142 --> 00:35:44,100
The road is faster.
305
00:35:44,144 --> 00:35:45,711
He's right. The woods have cover.
306
00:35:45,754 --> 00:35:48,496
It's safer.
307
00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:50,368
Let's go there.
308
00:35:50,411 --> 00:35:51,717
No.
309
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,501
We need to keep moving.
310
00:35:53,545 --> 00:35:55,851
No, we need a break.
311
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:28,057
We'll rest here for a while,
and then we'll head out.
312
00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:34,760
I know what you're thinking.
313
00:36:34,803 --> 00:36:36,675
The answer is no.
314
00:36:42,463 --> 00:36:44,422
He's right, Maggie.
315
00:36:46,815 --> 00:36:49,165
I'm slowing you down.
316
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:50,993
Nope.
317
00:36:51,037 --> 00:36:52,299
We're fine.
318
00:36:52,342 --> 00:36:55,650
Maybe now.
319
00:36:55,694 --> 00:36:58,610
If these guys are anything
like you say they are,
320
00:36:58,653 --> 00:37:00,699
then it's gonna get worse.
321
00:37:04,485 --> 00:37:07,445
I'm dead weight.
322
00:37:07,488 --> 00:37:09,011
We all know it.
323
00:37:09,055 --> 00:37:10,535
We'll help you.
324
00:37:21,807 --> 00:37:25,463
You wanna know why I
walked away from him...
325
00:37:25,506 --> 00:37:28,466
and everything he stood for...
326
00:37:28,509 --> 00:37:30,468
joined up with you?
327
00:37:33,296 --> 00:37:36,256
It's 'cause I trust you...
328
00:37:36,299 --> 00:37:39,041
to do the right thing.
329
00:37:39,085 --> 00:37:42,131
No matter how hard it is
or how much it costs you.
330
00:37:44,090 --> 00:37:46,919
The supplies... Maggie, look at me.
331
00:37:48,877 --> 00:37:52,794
The supplies are the only
thing that matters now.
332
00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:55,493
Alexandria needs us to do this.
333
00:37:57,103 --> 00:37:59,845
They're waiting for us.
334
00:37:59,888 --> 00:38:02,804
Hershel and Judith.
335
00:38:02,848 --> 00:38:04,197
Adam...
336
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,852
And Adam needs a father.
337
00:38:06,895 --> 00:38:10,246
You think I'm gonna make it out
of that town alive like this?
338
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:12,074
You left Gage. Leave me.
339
00:38:12,118 --> 00:38:15,034
Gage made his choice.
340
00:38:15,077 --> 00:38:17,253
And I'm making mine.
341
00:38:19,734 --> 00:38:21,083
No.
342
00:38:21,127 --> 00:38:23,651
Just... No.
343
00:38:23,695 --> 00:38:26,872
Maggie, if this plan fails...
344
00:38:26,915 --> 00:38:28,830
then everything you've worked for,
345
00:38:28,874 --> 00:38:32,181
everything you want for the future,
346
00:38:32,225 --> 00:38:33,705
it dies with it.
347
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:41,713
And then what happens to Adam?
348
00:38:41,756 --> 00:38:43,715
Okay.
349
00:38:43,758 --> 00:38:45,717
It's not that simple.
350
00:38:48,371 --> 00:38:50,286
Yeah, it is.
351
00:38:52,898 --> 00:38:55,509
The sun is going down.
352
00:38:55,553 --> 00:38:57,555
Maggie...
353
00:38:57,598 --> 00:38:59,557
you have to make a decision.
354
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,299
It's easy for you, isn't it?
355
00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:10,045
Being reckless with
somebody else's life.
356
00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:17,357
But you don't get to decide
357
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,316
who lives and who dies anymore.
358
00:39:24,407 --> 00:39:27,149
It's your fault.
359
00:39:27,193 --> 00:39:29,108
That we're here.
360
00:39:31,414 --> 00:39:34,592
It's your fault.
361
00:39:34,635 --> 00:39:37,333
Because you destroyed
everything that we built.
362
00:39:43,209 --> 00:39:45,341
You still have to decide.
363
00:40:17,983 --> 00:40:20,202
Ma... Maggie.
364
00:40:24,859 --> 00:40:26,818
Here.
365
00:41:14,735 --> 00:41:17,085
You better be here when we get back.
366
00:41:18,434 --> 00:41:20,872
You better come back.
367
00:42:32,726 --> 00:42:33,901
Do you feel that?
368
00:42:33,945 --> 00:42:35,511
All that chaos.
369
00:42:38,732 --> 00:42:41,691
Death, day after day.
370
00:42:43,868 --> 00:42:46,000
God is angry.
371
00:42:50,178 --> 00:42:52,833
I'm angry.
372
00:42:53,277 --> 00:42:55,531
Make them feel our wrath.
373
00:43:07,979 --> 00:43:10,633
This episode is pretty
much a direct pickup
374
00:43:10,677 --> 00:43:11,765
from the previous episode,
375
00:43:11,809 --> 00:43:15,551
but we are really living
in Maggie's point of view.
376
00:43:15,595 --> 00:43:17,031
Maggie's the one that kind of
377
00:43:17,075 --> 00:43:18,685
brought everybody on this mission
378
00:43:18,728 --> 00:43:23,081
and they're already off to
this chaotic, intense start
379
00:43:23,124 --> 00:43:24,952
and they're realizing
380
00:43:24,996 --> 00:43:28,477
just how scary and
dangerous these Reapers are.
381
00:43:28,521 --> 00:43:30,392
There's so much going on and, you know,
382
00:43:30,436 --> 00:43:32,177
they can all barely see each other.
383
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:35,267
Everything's happening in
these kind of flashes and blurs.
384
00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:36,746
There's sort of this helplessness,
385
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:38,357
in some ways, to our people,
386
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,185
like they feel like there's
not much they can do,
387
00:43:40,228 --> 00:43:43,405
other than just try to scramble
and survive it as best they can.
388
00:43:43,449 --> 00:43:45,886
And that's already
weighing heavy on Maggie
389
00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:47,322
as we start the episode.
390
00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:57,506
Carol and Aaron are a little bit at odds
391
00:43:57,550 --> 00:44:01,206
and I think, in a lot of ways,
it's just important to remember
392
00:44:01,249 --> 00:44:03,773
that Carol and Aaron are friends.
393
00:44:03,817 --> 00:44:06,733
They are basically on the same side,
394
00:44:06,776 --> 00:44:09,127
but reasonable people can disagree
395
00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:11,825
about what is the best
way to move forward
396
00:44:11,869 --> 00:44:17,048
and I think Carol is really in
a place where she's feeling like
397
00:44:17,091 --> 00:44:21,835
so much of what has happened to
Alexandria is indirectly her fault.
398
00:44:21,879 --> 00:44:23,228
You know, you can't really say
399
00:44:23,271 --> 00:44:25,839
that it wasn't going to happen, anyway.
400
00:44:25,883 --> 00:44:27,710
I mean, the Whisperers
were always going to get
401
00:44:27,754 --> 00:44:30,713
into conflict with our
people, but she's still working
402
00:44:30,757 --> 00:44:33,064
through everything that's
happened with Connie
403
00:44:33,107 --> 00:44:35,936
and, you know, when she and
Magna were lost in the cave,
404
00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:39,853
as a result of the
explosion that Carol caused.
405
00:44:39,897 --> 00:44:42,160
She just feels massive guilt every day.
406
00:44:42,203 --> 00:44:45,076
So she is dealing with
that in her own way
407
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:48,035
and I think Carol functions
well as a lone wolf.
408
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:52,605
She's always kind of had this
instinct to go out and do things
409
00:44:52,648 --> 00:44:56,261
and think in ways that maybe
everybody else isn't thinking,
410
00:44:56,304 --> 00:44:59,264
but sometimes it does put
her in odds with her friends.
411
00:44:59,307 --> 00:45:00,352
There is love there.
412
00:45:00,395 --> 00:45:01,875
There is respect there.
413
00:45:01,919 --> 00:45:03,703
However, there's also frustration
414
00:45:03,746 --> 00:45:06,793
that it's just they
can't get on the same page
415
00:45:06,836 --> 00:45:08,621
about how to address the problems.
416
00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:15,106
We really enjoy getting
to see the kids on our show
417
00:45:15,149 --> 00:45:17,978
and to put them in
interesting situations
418
00:45:18,022 --> 00:45:20,633
and see them also kind of grow up
419
00:45:20,676 --> 00:45:21,851
as they're working on the show.
420
00:45:21,895 --> 00:45:23,418
And we really wanted to see
421
00:45:23,462 --> 00:45:25,986
Judith and Hershel getting
to interact together
422
00:45:26,030 --> 00:45:28,946
after they didn't grow
up in the same community.
423
00:45:28,989 --> 00:45:30,991
There's a hopeful message in it, too,
424
00:45:31,035 --> 00:45:34,647
which is that children
find ways to be resilient,
425
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:36,083
even in the midst of a world
426
00:45:36,127 --> 00:45:37,737
that feels like it's breaking apart,
427
00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:40,044
and that there is hope in the ways
428
00:45:40,087 --> 00:45:43,525
that they can find
little spots of normalcy.
429
00:45:43,569 --> 00:45:46,267
And you also kind of get
to have the perspective of,
430
00:45:46,311 --> 00:45:48,530
"Oh, the grownups, they're so annoying,
431
00:45:48,574 --> 00:45:49,879
in the way they do things."
432
00:45:49,923 --> 00:45:51,446
Like which I think is sort of
433
00:45:51,490 --> 00:45:53,796
a universal attitude that children have.
434
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,276
I remember having that attitude.
435
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,105
Grownups are always
running off doing things.
436
00:45:58,149 --> 00:45:59,889
"Promise I'll see you soon!"
437
00:45:59,933 --> 00:46:01,674
"Love you!"
438
00:46:01,717 --> 00:46:03,371
They were so charming together.
439
00:46:03,415 --> 00:46:06,287
They really seemed to have a
great time doing that scene.
440
00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:09,334
Dang it!
441
00:46:12,076 --> 00:46:14,165
We wanted to show Maggie
442
00:46:14,208 --> 00:46:17,472
in kind of this horror
movie sequence, basically,
443
00:46:17,516 --> 00:46:20,388
where she's going down this staircase
444
00:46:20,432 --> 00:46:22,477
and she's trying to
escape from the Reapers
445
00:46:22,521 --> 00:46:23,739
and not make any sound,
446
00:46:23,783 --> 00:46:25,480
but can barely see what she's doing
447
00:46:25,524 --> 00:46:29,093
and is trying to create
little sound traps,
448
00:46:29,136 --> 00:46:31,617
so that she can hear them coming.
449
00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:34,359
But the Reapers are sort of spooky
450
00:46:34,402 --> 00:46:38,711
and they're very sneaky and
good at working in stealth,
451
00:46:38,754 --> 00:46:40,321
and so that was one of the things
452
00:46:40,365 --> 00:46:42,367
that we wanted to show
with them in the sequence.
453
00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:45,805
I personally always feel
like I'm going to get murdered
454
00:46:45,848 --> 00:46:47,720
in a staircase or like a parking lot.
455
00:46:47,763 --> 00:46:51,071
Those spaces can feel really,
really terrifying sometimes
456
00:46:51,115 --> 00:46:53,030
and they're empty and dark.
457
00:46:53,073 --> 00:46:56,076
So we fully wanted to
kind of play into that,
458
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,470
that aspect of hearing
like echoing steps,
459
00:46:58,513 --> 00:47:00,820
just not being able to
see around the corner
460
00:47:00,863 --> 00:47:02,517
as you're moving up in the levels,
461
00:47:02,561 --> 00:47:04,954
that can feel really, really creepy.
462
00:47:04,998 --> 00:47:06,826
And, you know, it's also just fun
463
00:47:06,869 --> 00:47:10,525
to see Maggie just be awesome
and be an awesome survivor.
464
00:47:13,746 --> 00:47:15,791
Aah!
465
00:47:17,097 --> 00:47:19,230
When Negan saves Maggie, I mean,
466
00:47:19,273 --> 00:47:22,320
I think he's accepted
that, to get through this,
467
00:47:22,363 --> 00:47:24,148
I mean, Maggie's a
really good fighter, too.
468
00:47:24,191 --> 00:47:25,584
He doesn't want to see her go.
469
00:47:25,627 --> 00:47:28,195
He's very, very drawn to people
470
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,893
who are very strong and stubborn
471
00:47:30,937 --> 00:47:32,417
and have leadership qualities.
472
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:33,983
We've seen that throughout the years.
473
00:47:34,027 --> 00:47:35,463
In some ways, you might even say
474
00:47:35,507 --> 00:47:37,683
that was sort of his Achilles' heel,
475
00:47:37,726 --> 00:47:40,425
is that he was always thinking,
476
00:47:40,468 --> 00:47:44,516
"I can turn this person on my side
477
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,953
and I like you because you're a badass
478
00:47:46,996 --> 00:47:48,346
and you tell it like it is
479
00:47:48,389 --> 00:47:50,391
and I like that you push up against me."
480
00:47:50,435 --> 00:47:52,437
And he's always trying
to go like, "Come on!
481
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,657
Like, now take all of that and
just transfer it to my team.
482
00:47:55,701 --> 00:47:57,964
Like don't you get it?
If we work together,
483
00:47:58,007 --> 00:47:59,661
it's all going to work out."
484
00:47:59,705 --> 00:48:01,098
So I think that that's actually
485
00:48:01,141 --> 00:48:03,012
kind of consistent with his character,
486
00:48:03,056 --> 00:48:08,148
is that, as much as he doesn't
trust Maggie and fears her,
487
00:48:08,192 --> 00:48:11,325
when she does give him
that gun in the subway,
488
00:48:11,369 --> 00:48:13,545
I think that that kind of triggers
489
00:48:13,588 --> 00:48:15,634
a little bit of a sense in him
490
00:48:15,677 --> 00:48:18,637
of like, "All right, maybe
I don't have to be afraid
491
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,334
that she's going to shoot me in the head
492
00:48:20,378 --> 00:48:21,640
when the opportunity comes.
493
00:48:21,683 --> 00:48:23,990
Maybe she does find me valuable,
494
00:48:24,033 --> 00:48:27,472
and that's something that I can
work with, in some kind of way."
495
00:48:27,515 --> 00:48:29,561
And so I think, when he saves her,
496
00:48:29,604 --> 00:48:31,476
he probably does it out of instinct...
497
00:48:33,086 --> 00:48:35,001
... but I also think he's
smart enough to think,
498
00:48:35,044 --> 00:48:37,482
"We are kind of in it together
and we're stuck together,
499
00:48:37,525 --> 00:48:41,268
so like, let me see if I can
get a favor from her, too,"
500
00:48:41,312 --> 00:48:44,663
because he did pick her over Alden."
501
00:48:44,706 --> 00:48:46,882
You think you can walk?
502
00:48:46,926 --> 00:48:48,145
Not gonna know until we try.
503
00:48:48,188 --> 00:48:49,450
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not seriously
504
00:48:49,494 --> 00:48:52,192
- Aah!
- thinking that we keep going.
505
00:48:52,236 --> 00:48:53,759
The plan doesn't change.
506
00:48:53,802 --> 00:48:55,543
We need that food.
507
00:48:55,587 --> 00:48:59,852
Negan is absolutely shocked
that, after all this,
508
00:48:59,895 --> 00:49:01,419
Maggie wants to keep going.
509
00:49:01,462 --> 00:49:03,203
The interesting thing, with Negan, is
510
00:49:03,247 --> 00:49:07,120
this is not a guy that was an
angel before the apocalypse,
511
00:49:07,164 --> 00:49:09,514
but neither was he a
guy that was just like,
512
00:49:09,557 --> 00:49:12,430
"I actually want to shoot
people up all the time."
513
00:49:12,473 --> 00:49:14,780
He, in fact, was like,
"Let me try to kill
514
00:49:14,823 --> 00:49:18,566
the minimum number of
people to make my point,
515
00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:20,612
and then, hopefully,
you'll just fall in line
516
00:49:20,655 --> 00:49:21,830
and I don't have to deal with it."
517
00:49:21,874 --> 00:49:23,441
Like he'd rather just not deal with it.
518
00:49:23,484 --> 00:49:26,487
So I think, for Negan,
he's kind of grumpy
519
00:49:26,531 --> 00:49:28,315
and he's like, "This is the army?
520
00:49:28,359 --> 00:49:30,926
This is the army that's going
to go in against these people?
521
00:49:30,970 --> 00:49:32,537
That, clearly,
522
00:49:32,580 --> 00:49:34,669
we're a little outmatched,
in terms of skill set
523
00:49:34,713 --> 00:49:36,062
and there seems to be a lot of them.
524
00:49:36,105 --> 00:49:37,194
They seem to be really mad."
525
00:49:37,237 --> 00:49:38,543
Like, you know,
526
00:49:38,586 --> 00:49:40,197
his perspective's not wrong.
527
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:43,461
It's a valid perspective,
but he doesn't give
528
00:49:43,504 --> 00:49:45,376
his notes gently. I'll just say that.
529
00:49:45,419 --> 00:49:46,768
Those people, they just told us
530
00:49:46,812 --> 00:49:48,814
exactly how insane they are.
531
00:49:48,857 --> 00:49:50,424
We can't be on a road.
532
00:49:50,468 --> 00:49:53,210
We can't be on any road
that they could use.
533
00:49:53,253 --> 00:49:55,299
It's a shit plan.
534
00:49:55,342 --> 00:49:57,779
By the time we get to that big scene
535
00:49:57,823 --> 00:49:59,694
with Negan and Maggie at the end
536
00:49:59,738 --> 00:50:01,392
and, you know, Alden's there
537
00:50:01,435 --> 00:50:03,916
and Maggie's going to make
this heartbreaking choice
538
00:50:03,959 --> 00:50:06,397
that they do have to keep
going and leave Alden,
539
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,486
which she absolutely
does not want to do,
540
00:50:08,529 --> 00:50:11,532
I think that, for
Negan, he's a smart guy.
541
00:50:11,576 --> 00:50:15,014
He can see that she doesn't
really want his advice.
542
00:50:15,057 --> 00:50:17,843
That doesn't mean he's going
to stop giving it, altogether,
543
00:50:17,886 --> 00:50:20,672
but I do think he's kind of
at a point where he realizes,
544
00:50:20,715 --> 00:50:23,718
if he's trying to push
her too hard, here,
545
00:50:23,762 --> 00:50:26,155
all that's going to happen
is she's going to get angry
546
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:28,070
and it's going to delay, maybe,
547
00:50:28,114 --> 00:50:32,161
this choice that she knows
herself she needs to make.
548
00:50:32,205 --> 00:50:34,120
He's pretty sure that she's going
549
00:50:34,163 --> 00:50:36,557
to make the choice to keep moving.
550
00:50:36,601 --> 00:50:38,385
He knows that she's mission-focused,
551
00:50:38,429 --> 00:50:41,606
but she kind of has to go
through the emotion of it
552
00:50:41,649 --> 00:50:43,956
and it makes it even that
much more heartbreaking,
553
00:50:43,999 --> 00:50:47,438
when the person who should
be kind of panicking is like,
554
00:50:47,481 --> 00:50:50,310
"You know as well as I
do what has to be done."
555
00:50:50,354 --> 00:50:52,486
And, at the heart of "The Walking Dead,"
556
00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,576
it's about those hard choices
557
00:50:55,620 --> 00:51:00,015
and sometimes our heroes make
choices that they don't like.
558
00:51:00,059 --> 00:51:01,626
Sometimes they make the wrong choice
559
00:51:01,669 --> 00:51:03,367
and sometimes they make the choice
560
00:51:03,410 --> 00:51:05,325
that is right and feels good.
561
00:51:05,369 --> 00:51:07,675
But this is one of those
ones where it just feels like
562
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,330
there's no win in any situation.
563
00:51:10,374 --> 00:51:12,898
They just have to make
the one that helps them
564
00:51:12,941 --> 00:51:14,856
do the most good for the most people.
565
00:51:21,130 --> 00:51:26,130
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