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- You need to tell me something.
- There's a woman.
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She's the leader.
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Previously on "The Walking Dead"...
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Oh, my God. You made it.
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We found each other in the woods.
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We didn't know if you'd survived.
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He told me there were a lot
more out there than we thought...
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More than twice the
force we have in here.
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You were right about this one.
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He is family now.
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We got to go. Connie's out there, alive.
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No!
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Look! Look!
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Sorry. Sorry. I'm just... No.
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No. It might be a house.
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We could hide.
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Go.
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We'll make better time
if I ride out on my own.
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It's less risky, and we're
gonna cover more ground
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with a larger group. The Council's
working on a plan right now.
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Connie doesn't have time
to wait on a committee.
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Well, why don't we split the
difference between fast and safe?
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Teams of two. We could divide
the map up into smaller grids.
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It could reduce the risk.
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Hey. Any of you seen Kelly?
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Unh!
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Okay.
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Uh...
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I checked the whole house.
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We're okay. Nobody's here.
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You need...
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"You need...
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some rest."
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You haven't slept in days.
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"I can keep watch."
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"We will find...
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your home."
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You... sleep.
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Listen.
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Rest.
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Huh?
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Okay.
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Tell us where they are!
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My dance card's wide open, man.
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We got all day.
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This bother you?
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I've done worse.
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Hm.
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Why don't you take a turn, then?
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Speed things up for me.
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All right. I'm up.
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Like hell you are!
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Well, are we just gonna stand here
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staring at each other dreamily
or are we gonna get to it?
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Hey, you kill him, the two of
us are gonna have a problem!
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Don't need a babysitter.
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I know what I'm doing.
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Just give 'em a location,
where your friends are hiding.
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You do that, this all goes away.
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That's, uh...
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That's a good offer.
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Or... and hear me out...
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you all could go eat shit instead.
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Just a thought.
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Already gone through these steps.
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Maybe we start taking pieces.
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You do what you gotta do.
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Give him a knife.
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I don't think you understand.
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I'm the best shot you got.
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Why? We "friends" now?
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No. Not 'cause we're friends.
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'Cause I'm the one holding the knife.
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Yeah.
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And your buddy's the
one holding the gun.
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Shut up!
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Shut up and listen to me.
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I know you're close to her.
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The leader.
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Close enough to know
where they're hidin'.
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No one needs to die in here.
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So just say a location so
we can all walk away happy.
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Go to hell, assho...
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Location!
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Or I take another!
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I can't!
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Location!
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- No! No! Please stop!
- Location!
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Yellow house.
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Town off the 283.
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Antenna. Antenna. Antenna. Antenna.
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Is that good enough?
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I can scout it out.
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Take a squad. Three of you.
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See if our friend speaks truth.
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You want us to take him?
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Wait. What happened?
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S-Slow down. I don't understand.
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What...
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Looks quiet. No movement.
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Two entrances. Breach both?
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By twos. You take Powell.
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Washington, Fish, go around
the back of the yellow house.
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What about dickhead?
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Am I supposed to
believe he's got my back?
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No, that's my job.
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Always.
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Clear!
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Clear!
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Clear!
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Clear!
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It's all clear, Carve.
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That son of a bitch jerked us around.
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We should stay, look around for
a bit, so we don't miss nothing.
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No, we'll search the
rest of the town first.
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Quick and quiet, in case
they're still nearby.
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You three, take the
north end and work back.
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- We'll meet you in the middle.
- Copy.
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Whoa.
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Where are you?
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My grandfather's house
used to have one of these.
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I'd secretly shove stuff in there.
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Uh...
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I-I'm sorry. I don't see anything.
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I'm sure you saw something...
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but...
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But you haven't slept.
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So maybe it's...
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Y-Yeah. 'Cause...
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Okay, okay. Okay. I'm sorry.
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You and me, let's give the
house another sweep, okay?
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Connie!
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Hungry!
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Clear!
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Over here!
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They're still wet.
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Guess he was telling the truth, then.
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We should clear the other rooms.
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- Clear!
- Clear!
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Clear!
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Clear!
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Nothing.
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Maybe they went out the
back. I can track them.
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Are you in a hurry to leave?
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What?
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Other building, you
wanted to stick around
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and make sure we didn't miss anything.
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Now you wanna run
right off. Which is it?
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Look, man, I'm just trying to help.
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Yet you keep chirpin'.
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Fine. You lose 'em, it's
on you. It ain't on me.
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Stop.
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Wash, we need a perimeter check.
Possible runners. Half a klick.
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Copy that, Shaw.
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Look. I don't have time
for this toddler bullshit.
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- Listen...
- I know.
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I understand, but I don't need it.
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Go sift upstairs, make sure
we didn't miss anything.
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Don't.
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Don't what?
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You're either with us or you're not.
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What do you want me to do?
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For one thing... stop
pissing off Carver.
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Usually don't end well.
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Come on.
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Please.
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Please. Just a...
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Just a little bit...
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more!
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Whoa! Kelly?
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Awesome.
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You need help?
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What the hell were you thinking?
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You should have told us
that you were heading out.
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Come here.
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I'm fine.
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But Connie's not.
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I found her camp.
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She's with some guy who knew Michonne.
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They left in a hurry.
Something's not right.
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She thought they were being followed.
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She's out there.
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She's scared.
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She needs me.
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And if...
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if something happened to her...
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No. We're gonna find her first.
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Yeah.
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Come on. Let's get movin'.
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Hungry!
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Oh! Oh, God. Connie.
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Come on. I got you. Come on.
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Oh, God.
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They ran. They ain't comin' back here.
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What?
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I mean, think about
it. You hit 'em hard.
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Even if they get more people,
they won't come back here.
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It's a bad move.
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You got what? 20 people in your town.
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You got weapons. You got walls.
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You'd see them coming from a mile away.
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Trust me. They ran.
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Is there a point to any of this?
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Let's go. There's nothing
here. It's time we move on.
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No. We're missing something.
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- Fine. Let's waste another hour. That's smart.
- Daryl...
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It's not my fault he's too
stupid to pay attention!
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Yeah. Chirp, chirp, chirp.
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- Enough.
- Ah, screw that.
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This dirtbag wants to play,
I'll teach him the rules.
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I'm right here, man. Make a move.
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This is not the time, and
it's not your call to make.
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Jesus, Shaw.
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We both know who he really is deep down.
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What?
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I was there. Remember?
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After.
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What, you think this is
gonna end any different?
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So this is what? You looking out for me?
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Always.
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Uh-huh.
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Gotcha.
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And what about the fire?
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When Pope locked me in
the cabin and lit it up.
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You must have known.
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Was that you looking out for me, too?
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Shaw. Wake up.
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Everything's a test now.
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If you think this guy
is ever gonna give a shit
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about any of us, you're gonna fail.
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No, he's right.
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I don't give a shit about any of you.
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Except you.
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I'm here for you.
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It's no secret. I made mistakes.
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But I'm here right now.
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Maybe I'd be better at it
this time, if you'd let me.
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And Pope scares the shit outta me.
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I don't wanna be face-first
in the fire under his boot.
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But if you say trust
'em, I'll trust 'em.
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We've wasted enough time here already.
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Oh, you're not seriously gonna...
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It's time to move on.
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Sure. Your call.
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Hold on.
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Told ya.
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Which way?
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We could split up, check
both trails, double back.
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Storm's coming. We
should stick together.
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It's up to you. Which
way do you think she went?
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That way.
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They led us here.
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I've never seen people this far gone.
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To herd us, like prey.
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But we're not.
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I'm getting you out.
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We'll make a run for it.
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Take this.
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No matter what happens...
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you have to keep going.
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With or without me. Don't stop.
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Just...
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_
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No. No, no, no, no, no. Please.
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Just take it.
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_
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_
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I don't know how to explain. Um...
283
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But I don't have a choice.
284
00:37:04,603 --> 00:37:09,389
I lost myself... for a long time.
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00:37:09,392 --> 00:37:11,176
Off the map.
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00:37:13,831 --> 00:37:16,179
And I, um...
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I made choices
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00:37:20,011 --> 00:37:23,012
that I can't un-choose.
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00:37:23,014 --> 00:37:25,449
But she gave me another chance.
290
00:37:25,451 --> 00:37:27,234
Michonne.
291
00:37:27,236 --> 00:37:29,410
She pointed me back to the road,
292
00:37:29,412 --> 00:37:34,069
and somehow that road led right to you.
293
00:37:36,114 --> 00:37:38,375
So I have to pass on that chance,
294
00:37:38,377 --> 00:37:40,856
or it all means nothing.
295
00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:42,379
And if you can...
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00:37:46,472 --> 00:37:49,995
If you...
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can find your family...
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- _
- No, no. No.
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Listen, listen, listen.
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00:37:58,846 --> 00:38:02,282
I need you to promise me
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00:38:02,285 --> 00:38:06,055
that you will keep going,
no matter what happens.
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00:38:17,286 --> 00:38:19,416
Together?
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00:38:27,409 --> 00:38:29,122
Together.
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00:38:33,518 --> 00:38:35,432
Time's up.
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00:39:04,732 --> 00:39:10,738
Go. Go. Go, go. Go, go!
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00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,434
Go!
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00:39:31,795 --> 00:39:34,099
Go. Get out.
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00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,434
Go.
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00:42:05,531 --> 00:42:07,476
_
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They were there.
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Caught signs, but they slipped away.
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00:42:42,725 --> 00:42:45,856
Sorry.
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00:42:45,858 --> 00:42:48,076
Ooh.
314
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:53,382
I thought you'd be disappointed.
315
00:42:53,385 --> 00:42:55,997
Well, this day was a success.
316
00:42:55,999 --> 00:42:57,128
How so?
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00:42:57,130 --> 00:42:58,492
After you left,
318
00:42:58,495 --> 00:43:01,872
I continued the
"discussion" with our guest.
319
00:43:01,874 --> 00:43:04,399
He wasn't too talkative.
320
00:43:05,878 --> 00:43:09,924
But I got everything
I needed out of him.
321
00:43:58,335 --> 00:44:00,408
The world is different now...
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00:44:00,411 --> 00:44:03,020
Fewer people to fight for,
323
00:44:03,022 --> 00:44:05,240
there's fewer things to fight over.
324
00:44:05,242 --> 00:44:08,286
You're saying you'd
do things differently?
325
00:44:08,288 --> 00:44:11,594
If I could do it all over again?
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00:44:11,596 --> 00:44:13,030
Yeah.
327
00:44:13,032 --> 00:44:16,947
Your people need help.
I can deliver for you.
328
00:44:16,949 --> 00:44:20,342
Your brothers are dead,
are you not ashamed?!
329
00:44:32,617 --> 00:44:36,401
It was so great to have
Lauren Ridloff back finally.
330
00:44:36,403 --> 00:44:38,229
We had been planning for a long time
331
00:44:38,231 --> 00:44:39,883
to bring her back in this episode,
332
00:44:39,885 --> 00:44:41,827
and we'd sort of,
like, shaped the story,
333
00:44:41,830 --> 00:44:44,395
and we wanted to give
her, like, a big reentry
334
00:44:44,398 --> 00:44:46,150
into the show.
335
00:44:48,415 --> 00:44:51,199
We loved having Kevin
Carroll back as Virgil,
336
00:44:51,201 --> 00:44:53,244
and I think what was important for us
337
00:44:53,246 --> 00:44:57,205
is to show that Virgil was affected
338
00:44:57,207 --> 00:44:58,815
by meeting Michonne,
339
00:44:58,817 --> 00:45:02,123
and I think he had to
suppress some of his heart
340
00:45:02,125 --> 00:45:05,692
to kind of, like, get through
the death of his family,
341
00:45:05,694 --> 00:45:08,433
and he sort of made that decision
342
00:45:08,435 --> 00:45:12,089
to try stepping out and
finding society again.
343
00:45:12,091 --> 00:45:15,440
Of course, he found
everything was just abandoned
344
00:45:15,442 --> 00:45:18,008
because our people were
fleeing the Whisperers,
345
00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:20,445
but, fortunately, he
comes across Connie,
346
00:45:20,447 --> 00:45:24,362
and I think he feels like he
wants to do better in the world.
347
00:45:24,364 --> 00:45:26,103
And so there's a real selflessness
348
00:45:26,105 --> 00:45:28,062
that you see in Virgil here.
349
00:45:28,064 --> 00:45:29,672
He has some skills, you know,
350
00:45:29,674 --> 00:45:31,282
and when Connie's about to be attacked,
351
00:45:31,284 --> 00:45:33,720
like, he gets her out of the
way and takes the brunt of that
352
00:45:33,722 --> 00:45:36,157
even though it means he
gets injured pretty badly,
353
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:37,724
and I think we're starting to see
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00:45:37,726 --> 00:45:40,727
probably who he truly is at the core.
355
00:45:47,605 --> 00:45:52,565
So, this episode, we were
talking very, very, early on,
356
00:45:52,567 --> 00:45:54,262
and one of the things
that we talked about
357
00:45:54,264 --> 00:45:55,959
was, like, we would love to do
358
00:45:55,961 --> 00:45:59,590
just a good, old fashioned
haunted-house horror story
359
00:45:59,593 --> 00:46:02,096
because that just seemed really fun,
360
00:46:02,098 --> 00:46:04,664
and we just were talking
about how people become
361
00:46:04,666 --> 00:46:06,361
too far gone in this world,
362
00:46:06,363 --> 00:46:08,145
and we've seen people who are cannibals,
363
00:46:08,147 --> 00:46:10,887
we've talked about people
that Maggie had run across,
364
00:46:10,889 --> 00:46:13,890
we've seen the Whisperers,
and we were just talking about
365
00:46:13,892 --> 00:46:15,762
people that have gone completely feral,
366
00:46:15,764 --> 00:46:17,285
and what kind of desperation
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00:46:17,287 --> 00:46:19,156
would it take to get to that point?
368
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,833
Greg Nicotero and his KNB Group,
369
00:46:24,836 --> 00:46:27,053
they did all the creature design
370
00:46:27,056 --> 00:46:30,298
and made these people
unique from zombies
371
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:33,257
and have their own
sort of terrifying look.
372
00:46:39,309 --> 00:46:41,608
There's that set deck where you see
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00:46:41,611 --> 00:46:45,182
the pictures on the wall and
the eyes are scratched out.
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00:46:45,184 --> 00:46:48,185
"A," we thought that's
creepy, so that's really fun,
375
00:46:48,187 --> 00:46:50,971
but in the backstory of
it, we actually do think
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00:46:50,973 --> 00:46:54,409
that those are pictures of relatives
377
00:46:54,411 --> 00:46:57,586
or even some of the
people who became ferals
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00:46:57,588 --> 00:46:59,544
and are living in that house.
379
00:46:59,546 --> 00:47:03,548
And as they sort of descended
into a much more feral state,
380
00:47:03,550 --> 00:47:07,596
they just started destroying
the vestiges of their humanity.
381
00:47:07,598 --> 00:47:11,600
So we totally had a story
reason why we did that,
382
00:47:11,602 --> 00:47:13,167
but at the same time, we also thought
383
00:47:13,169 --> 00:47:16,083
it just looked, like,
super weird and creepy.
384
00:47:16,085 --> 00:47:18,738
One of the things that
was interesting for us
385
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:21,958
in doing this episode was just picking
386
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,178
which point of view that you're in.
387
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,007
For the average viewer,
you're just gonna assume
388
00:47:27,009 --> 00:47:30,227
that the default is being,
like, a hearing viewer,
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00:47:30,229 --> 00:47:33,013
and I think it's interesting
to sometimes kind of flip that
390
00:47:33,015 --> 00:47:36,016
because they are
experiencing the same events
391
00:47:36,018 --> 00:47:37,582
in slightly different ways.
392
00:47:37,584 --> 00:47:39,628
It became really
interesting to go, like,
393
00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:42,675
"Maybe we play the sound
to him in his point of view
394
00:47:42,677 --> 00:47:45,680
but you don't play it when
we're in her point of view."
395
00:47:48,204 --> 00:47:50,857
To me, the best horror,
it really is like
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00:47:50,859 --> 00:47:54,251
you're touching on the
entire range of human emotion
397
00:47:54,253 --> 00:47:56,601
and the human experience,
and I think that, like,
398
00:47:56,603 --> 00:48:00,170
she just captured all of that
so seemingly effortlessly.
399
00:48:00,172 --> 00:48:02,258
I know she puts in a lot
of work into her craft
400
00:48:02,261 --> 00:48:03,642
and what she does,
401
00:48:03,645 --> 00:48:06,610
but she brings so much
nuance to these little moments
402
00:48:06,613 --> 00:48:08,788
and, just, she's so expressive.
403
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:10,209
I think she's kind of
404
00:48:10,212 --> 00:48:12,966
the perfect horror-movie star in this.
405
00:48:25,850 --> 00:48:26,982
I'm up.
406
00:48:28,635 --> 00:48:31,549
The torture scene is just very specific
407
00:48:31,551 --> 00:48:34,727
to this group and their philosophy
408
00:48:34,729 --> 00:48:37,686
and the particular time in history
409
00:48:37,688 --> 00:48:39,514
when they were soldiers
410
00:48:39,516 --> 00:48:43,213
as well as, more
importantly, mercenaries,
411
00:48:43,215 --> 00:48:46,739
and the darkness that
continued to evolve
412
00:48:46,741 --> 00:48:48,355
throughout the apocalypse.
413
00:48:48,358 --> 00:48:50,381
We've seen Daryl in scenes
414
00:48:50,384 --> 00:48:52,073
where he's had to torture people before,
415
00:48:52,076 --> 00:48:54,572
but certainly not to this extent
416
00:48:54,574 --> 00:48:56,749
and certainly not against somebody
417
00:48:56,751 --> 00:48:59,839
that he considers an
ally and that he likes.
418
00:48:59,841 --> 00:49:03,277
And I think that what the show does
419
00:49:03,279 --> 00:49:05,714
is put our characters into situations
420
00:49:05,716 --> 00:49:08,848
where they are just in
the worst possible things
421
00:49:08,850 --> 00:49:10,110
that they could imagine.
422
00:49:10,112 --> 00:49:12,242
Like, they're living nightmares.
423
00:49:12,244 --> 00:49:14,244
This is not something he wants to do,
424
00:49:14,246 --> 00:49:16,290
but they are most likely both gonna die
425
00:49:16,292 --> 00:49:17,770
if he doesn't do this.
426
00:49:17,772 --> 00:49:20,163
He certainly I don't
think blinks at the idea
427
00:49:20,165 --> 00:49:22,407
of having to lay down his
own life for his friends,
428
00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:23,732
but in this case, like,
429
00:49:23,734 --> 00:49:27,170
he knows he might be a
key to getting this done.
430
00:49:27,172 --> 00:49:31,087
But I think it's also
about Frost's bravery,
431
00:49:31,089 --> 00:49:33,873
knowing that he's going to be tortured
432
00:49:33,875 --> 00:49:35,875
and basically going along with it.
433
00:49:35,877 --> 00:49:37,441
Go to hell, assho...
434
00:49:39,489 --> 00:49:42,272
Ever since Daryl signaled to
him when they were behind bars
435
00:49:42,274 --> 00:49:44,753
in Episode 4, like,
"These guys are listening.
436
00:49:44,755 --> 00:49:47,303
We got to pretend like
we're not friends,"
437
00:49:47,306 --> 00:49:49,410
Frost has really, really gotten
438
00:49:49,412 --> 00:49:53,370
that he did exactly what
Daryl was hoping he would do,
439
00:49:53,372 --> 00:49:55,590
which is he kind of gave
him the right neighborhood,
440
00:49:55,592 --> 00:49:57,116
so there's some credibility,
441
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,900
and Daryl's hoping that saves Frost.
442
00:50:00,902 --> 00:50:02,989
He thinks, like, "If you
just say the neighborhood
443
00:50:02,991 --> 00:50:07,732
but not exactly the house,
then I can buy some time,"
444
00:50:07,734 --> 00:50:09,996
which is basically what
he does, and so, you know,
445
00:50:09,998 --> 00:50:13,129
he's trying to, like,
create little signals
446
00:50:13,131 --> 00:50:16,350
which allowed Maggie
and company to hide,
447
00:50:16,352 --> 00:50:18,526
and Daryl's just trying
to feed them information
448
00:50:18,528 --> 00:50:20,532
about, like, how many people they are.
449
00:50:20,535 --> 00:50:22,922
You got what? 20 people in your town.
450
00:50:22,924 --> 00:50:24,916
You got weapons. You got walls.
451
00:50:24,919 --> 00:50:26,876
You'd see them coming from a mile away.
452
00:50:26,879 --> 00:50:28,188
Trust me. They ran.
453
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:30,962
I think, when Carver
goes for that trapdoor,
454
00:50:30,965 --> 00:50:33,846
if you watch Norman, the way
he plays it is really great.
455
00:50:33,848 --> 00:50:36,152
He's ready to, like, go down fighting
456
00:50:36,154 --> 00:50:39,242
if that trapdoor opens
and the people are there,
457
00:50:39,244 --> 00:50:41,636
but, fortunately, they're
not. They got away.
458
00:50:41,638 --> 00:50:44,595
So Daryl knows, like, now
he's in with these people
459
00:50:44,597 --> 00:50:46,423
and his people are safe,
460
00:50:46,425 --> 00:50:48,208
so that's as good of an outcome
461
00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:50,253
as he can hope for in the moment,
462
00:50:50,255 --> 00:50:53,343
because it's like, if they
can just keep that going,
463
00:50:53,345 --> 00:50:55,258
he can be that person on the inside
464
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:59,175
that's gonna facilitate them
getting inside the walls.
465
00:50:59,177 --> 00:51:02,004
What we wanted to play
at the end of this episode
466
00:51:02,006 --> 00:51:05,007
is that Pope is unpredictable.
467
00:51:05,009 --> 00:51:07,009
I don't think anybody predicted
468
00:51:07,011 --> 00:51:10,621
that he was going to kill Frost
anyway in the middle of that,
469
00:51:10,623 --> 00:51:13,407
but what we're learning about Pope is
470
00:51:13,409 --> 00:51:15,800
he's in a dark place.
471
00:51:15,802 --> 00:51:17,510
He's spiraling in his own way.
472
00:51:17,513 --> 00:51:21,763
He's obsessed with the idea
of Maggie being out there,
473
00:51:21,765 --> 00:51:23,401
and so, in some ways,
474
00:51:23,404 --> 00:51:26,330
he's messing with Daryl's
head, too, you know?
475
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,813
He's kind of, like,
making his own moves.
476
00:51:28,815 --> 00:51:31,816
Him going off and talking
and laughing with Carver
477
00:51:31,818 --> 00:51:37,039
is completely designed to create
paranoia in Leah and in Daryl.
478
00:51:37,041 --> 00:51:38,911
It doesn't even matter what he's saying.
479
00:51:38,913 --> 00:51:42,262
This is more about who Pope
is as a person right now
480
00:51:42,264 --> 00:51:45,439
and the questions that's raising in Leah
481
00:51:45,441 --> 00:51:48,703
and the potential openings
that Daryl is starting to see
482
00:51:48,705 --> 00:51:52,011
in how he can work the situation.
483
00:51:59,493 --> 00:52:08,108
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